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Old 08-02-15, 05:29 PM   #1
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mountain bike wheel question

I have a 95 Univega Alpina 501 in excellent shape this bike is used mainly for 2 things
1. to take when we travel locally to run around town when we get to were we are going , around the camp grounds etc So I don't have to leave my Surly's unattended
2. as a fishing bike to run along the river or lake off road but not hard trails
I have an extra complete set of wheels I have put the extras on the bike with just adjusting the brakes with the adjusting screw Both shift through the gears without adjusting the derailiers
I want to put slicks/road tires on one set of wheels, these would see the most use so they need to go on the better set of wheels
which is the better wheels???
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Wheels on the bike
Hubs Shimano AceraX
Rims Araya VP-20, 36-hole
Tires26 x 1.95" Top Gear
7 speed 11-28 > this is a free wheel type takes schrader type tube

extra set of wheels
hub Suntour XC comp
Rim Araya rc 17 32 hole
7 speed 12-30 this is a free hub type takes presta tube
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If the two wheelsets are so close in quality that you have trouble making a judgement, it probably doesn't matter very much.

From here, and I can't see the wheels, I'd pick the set with the Suntour hubs for the slicks.
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If the two wheelsets are so close in quality that you have trouble making a judgement, it probably doesn't matter very much.

From here, and I can't see the wheels, I'd pick the set with the Suntour hubs for the slicks.
Thanks the extra wheelset came from fisher or richey bike from the same time period. the local shop bought the bike and was offered more for the shifters than he had in the bike . I bought the wheels for a project that went away .
My Univega has the derailiers wheels brakes listed on bikepedia as a 95 the fork and shifter are as listed for a 94. It is a different color than listed for 95 and 94 doesn't list colors
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Thanks the extra wheelset came from fisher or richey bike from the same time period. the local shop bought the bike and was offered more for the shifters than he had in the bike . I bought the wheels for a project that went away .
My Univega has the derailiers wheels brakes listed on bikepedia as a 95 the fork and shifter are as listed for a 94. It is a different color than listed for 95 and 94 doesn't list colors
Listed component specs often aren't too reliable. When manufacturers run out of a listed component it's common for them to substitute a different component of equal or greater value. I don't think that they ever downgrade.
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Condition of the rims, spokes and axle/bearings would be a part of the equation I'd be working with. If one wheel set was in better condition that might be the one I'd want to use when further from home. Andy.
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Bikes with freehubs/cassettes are more resistant to axle issues (breakage or bending).

All else being similar, I would probably use the freehub equipped wheels for the trails, since even mild trails would be harder on the axles than the roads I tend to ride. But a good argument could also be made for using them on the wheels that get the most usage.
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There are a few considerations, the main one is that Suntour and Shimano freehubs are not the same. You will need to find a rare Suntour cassette or swap out the freehub to a Shimano one.

While other manufacturers came out with cassette freehub (vs freewheel) designs, they lacked the main advantage Shimano patented: the outboard weight-loading bearing. Suntour and Campagnolo rolled out freehubs but with mid-mounted bearings, leading to no better strength than their freewheel designs.

I would pass on either wheel and look for a cheap Shimano freehub cassette hub

Edit: It seems like the Suntour has the cassette included. Getting a Shimano shifter to click on a Suntour cassette takes some extra tinkering that might not be compatible with a wheel swap

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I put the suntour equipped rim on the bike and it seemed to shift fine over a 2 mile test ride. I was more concerned that 1 was geared 11-28 And the other was geared 12-30
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My reference shows Shimano Acera X as a Free Hub.
Who makes an 11-28T Free Wheel? To me, 11T says Free Hub, unless the Free Wheel is a very recent "off brand" one.

https://www.paul-lange.de/support/sh...-7QR-1447A.pdf

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My reference shows Shimano Acera X as a Free Hub.
Who makes an 11-28T Free Wheel? To me, 11T says Free Hub, unless the Free Wheel is a very recent "off brand" one.

https://www.paul-lange.de/support/sh...-7QR-1447A.pdf
It could be I was really tired last night. I will take it off the bike and look closer when I have time
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