Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Good new hubs for freewheels?

Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Good new hubs for freewheels?

Old 10-09-15, 03:47 PM
  #1  
Seizedpost
Bench vise user
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 528

Bikes: 2004 Orbea Marmaloda, 1982 S12-S LTD, 1956? Maino, 1985 Sagres

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Good new hubs for freewheels?

Hello all,
I am fixing up a 1982 Fuji: http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...niversary.html
And it needs wheels. I'm thinking about building my own. I haven't decided whether I want 27" or 700c yet, but I do know that I want to keep the 126mm dropout spacing and original components. I plan to use a Suntour 6 speed freewheel.
What good rear hubs are available today that accept freewheels? I seem to be finding a lot of cheap Chinese stuff.
I'm not set on building my own wheels, and I'm considering both new pre-builts and used wheels. I want wheels that are durable, inexpensive, and light, in that order.
Thanks!
Seizedpost is offline  
Old 10-09-15, 04:05 PM
  #2  
cny-bikeman 
Mechanic/Tourist
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Syracuse, NY
Posts: 7,506

Bikes: 2008 Novara Randonee - love it. Previous bikes:Motobecane Mirage, 1972 Moto Grand Jubilee (my fave), Jackson Rake 16, 1983 C'dale ST500.

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 477 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Look for a vintage hub or wheel that has been properly maintained or a NOS in the box.
__________________
There's no such thing as a routine repair.

Don't tell me what "should" be - either it is, it isn't, or do something about it.

If you think I'm being blunt take it as a compliment - if I thought you were too weak to handle the truth or a strong opinion I would not bother.

Please respect others by taking the time to post clearly so we can answer quickly. All lowercase and multiple typos makes for a hard read. Thanks!
cny-bikeman is offline  
Old 10-09-15, 04:20 PM
  #3  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 15,129

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3613 Post(s)
Liked 68 Times in 60 Posts
I'd be tempted to pick up these wheels from velo mine, Sun CR18 Road Bike Sealed Bearing 700c Wheelset 126mm Rear [072774744381] - $120.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
bikemig is offline  
Old 10-09-15, 04:36 PM
  #4  
hueyhoolihan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Above ground, Walnut Creek, Ca
Posts: 6,686

Bikes: 8 ss bikes, 1 5-speed touring bike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 86 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

OP, great value. i'm surprised new 126mm spacing with freewheel hubs are still being offered...
hueyhoolihan is offline  
Old 10-09-15, 05:17 PM
  #5  
FastJake
Constant tinkerer
 
FastJake's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Posts: 7,639
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 24 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Cheap, generic, cartridge bearing hubs. Exactly what I expected and about your best choice if you truly want a brand new freewheel hub. I would not bother building a new wheel around a cheap Chinese hub.

A better choice IMO would be a nice vintage hub in good condition or NOS, as mentioned above.

The best choice IMO would be a 7-speed Shimano cassette hub. You could keep your 126mm dropout spacing and have a nice strong hub with no risk of ever bending or breaking an axle, although you'd probably be ok with a 6-speed freewheel. In any case it's your bike so do what you want.
FastJake is offline  
Old 10-09-15, 05:23 PM
  #6  
Andrew R Stewart 
Senior Member
 
Andrew R Stewart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 11,614

Bikes: Stewart S&S coupled sport tourer, Stewart Sunday light, Stewart Commuting, Stewart Touring, Co Motion Tandem, Stewart 3-Spd, Stewart Track, Fuji Finest, Raleigh Pro, Trek Cycle Cross, Mongoose tomac ATB, GT Bravado ATB, JCP Folder

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1734 Post(s)
Liked 47 Times in 34 Posts
If you've got the budget a Phil hub can be had with freewheel threading and almost any axle length/spacing you need. This path tends to be a life time investment so don't bother if you're the kind who wants something different frequently Andy.
Andrew R Stewart is offline  
Old 10-09-15, 05:34 PM
  #7  
Wileyone 
Senior Member
 
Wileyone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: GWN
Posts: 1,971
Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1053 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
I have had good luck with Velo Orange products. I haven't tried their Hubs yet but for the price they sure look the part.

Grand Cru High Flange Freewheel Rear Hub 130mm - Hubs - Wheels, Rims, Hubs & Accessories - Components
Wileyone is offline  
Old 10-09-15, 05:53 PM
  #8  
LesterOfPuppets
cowboy, steel horse, etc
 
LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Valley of the Sun.
Posts: 32,456

Bikes: everywhere

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3908 Post(s)
Liked 61 Times in 46 Posts
Dura-Ace track hubs are easy to respace to 126mm. You can get 'em for a little over $200 a pair in the US.

I dunno if that would be considered inexpensive, exactly, but good.

I'd get an axle vise to aid in the respacing project.
LesterOfPuppets is offline  
Old 10-09-15, 06:00 PM
  #9  
Dan Burkhart 
Senior member
 
Dan Burkhart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Oakville Ontario
Posts: 7,277
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 537 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 16 Posts
Curtis Odom is a small manufacturer of vintage style bike parts. He makes high quality hubs for freewheels.





You can buy direct from his web site, but you may have to wait a while.
Hubs
Dan Burkhart is offline  
Old 10-09-15, 11:51 PM
  #10  
catgita
Senior Member
 
catgita's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Long Beach
Posts: 763

Bikes: Fitz randonneuse, Trek Superfly/AL, Tsunami SS, Bacchetta, HPV Speed Machine, Rans Screamer

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 99 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Wileyone View Post
I have had good luck with Velo Orange products. I haven't tried their Hubs yet but for the price they sure look the pa
They also have a 126. Very nice for the money, especially on sale for $35. I just built up a single speed using the fixed gear version because the axle can be respaced to line up the freewheel to the chainring, while the others you have to shift the chainring instead. I didn't have room to move the chainring closer to the frame, so it was an important feature.
catgita is offline  
Old 10-10-15, 12:13 AM
  #11  
SkyDog75
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 3,808

Bikes: Bianchi San Mateo and a few others

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 632 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Seizedpost View Post
I am fixing up a 1982 Fuji... And it needs wheels.
If you're going to buy new, the wheels from Velo Mine that bikemig mentioned are a good value. Sun CR-18 rims are solid, and I think those are the same Quando hubs I'm running on my ol' Peugeot. No complaints about them so far.

If you'd consider used wheels, I might have something to offer. I have an extra set of 27" wheels and I'd rather they be rolling on your bike than taking up space in my garage. I'll send you a message with details.
SkyDog75 is offline  
Old 10-10-15, 06:03 AM
  #12  
Retro Grouch 
Senior Member
 
Retro Grouch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Posts: 29,278

Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1163 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 24 Posts
Originally Posted by Seizedpost View Post
I want wheels that are durable, inexpensive, and light, in that order.
Originally Posted by cny-bikeman View Post
Look for a vintage hub or wheel that has been properly maintained or a NOS in the box.
Since inexpensive is on your list, that would be my recommendation too.

You might check suppliers, like Niagara, to see what they offer for new freewheel hubs. You might be able to find a new lower end Shimano hub that is, or can be modified, to fit 126 mm dropouts.
__________________
My greatest fear is all of my kids standing around my coffin and talking about "how sensible" dad was.

Last edited by Retro Grouch; 10-10-15 at 06:07 AM.
Retro Grouch is offline  
Old 10-10-15, 03:59 PM
  #13  
LlamaBikes
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 92
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Although not made anymore you may find find some old stock of Paul Jono hubs. They were selling around $100 before they stopped making them. Adjustable dropout spacing allows you to use it in many bikes.
LlamaBikes is offline  
Old 10-10-15, 05:43 PM
  #14  
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 41,632

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 188 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6836 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 215 Times in 179 Posts
Toured Internationally on a Bike with a Phil Freewheel Hub, they have resolved the primary shortcoming of that type ,
the Axle is super strong.

Roger Durham's Bullseye Hubs are also a strong axle design even though the axle and the reinforcing Sleeves over it
is Mostly Aluminum.

They come apart easily to drop in a new Bearing cartridge when needed,

Phil's field service design is also easy to maintain ..

Specialized also Got a good Freewheel hub Made for them in the 80's but it still is a 10MM threaded axle ,
though double shields the sealed bearing Cartridges .. Sanshin made them, I think .
I paired my Phil rear with one of those Up Front.

Sun tour stopped making freewheels long ago so what do you intend to do to not wear it down,
Not ride the Bike?

Last edited by fietsbob; 10-10-15 at 05:52 PM.
fietsbob is online now  
Old 10-11-15, 08:25 AM
  #15  
Seizedpost
Bench vise user
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 528

Bikes: 2004 Orbea Marmaloda, 1982 S12-S LTD, 1956? Maino, 1985 Sagres

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
No, I am planning to ride this bike a lot. In fact I hope to use it for a tour next summer. It never occurred to that replacement Suntour cogs would be an issue.
Seizedpost is offline  
Old 10-11-15, 11:01 AM
  #16  
Seizedpost
Bench vise user
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 528

Bikes: 2004 Orbea Marmaloda, 1982 S12-S LTD, 1956? Maino, 1985 Sagres

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Maybe I'll just get a Shimano 6 speed Hyperglide 14-28.
Seizedpost is offline  
Old 10-11-15, 11:32 AM
  #17  
LesterOfPuppets
cowboy, steel horse, etc
 
LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Valley of the Sun.
Posts: 32,456

Bikes: everywhere

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3908 Post(s)
Liked 61 Times in 46 Posts
Originally Posted by Seizedpost View Post
Maybe I'll just get a Shimano 6 speed Hyperglide 14-28.
With those shifters, it doesn't really matter. Shimano, Suntour, Campagnolo, Sachs...
LesterOfPuppets is offline  
Old 10-11-15, 02:23 PM
  #18  
ramzilla
Senior Member
 
ramzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: 10% Atlanta GA 90% Fernandina FL
Posts: 2,457

Bikes: Vintage Japanese Bicycles

Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 397 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 6 Posts
These should fit. I've got a pair on one of my bikes now. They're a real good value at the price too. ..................

~http://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/wheel-master-27-road-wheel-set-sun-cr18-rim-36h-5-6-7-speed-fw-qr-silver
ramzilla is offline  
Old 10-12-15, 12:37 PM
  #19  
nfmisso
Nigel
 
nfmisso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 3,001

Bikes: 1980s and 1990s steel: CyclePro, Nishiki, Schwinn, SR, Trek........

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 381 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Scroll down to "Seven Speed Shimano 105 SC " on Custom Wheel Building

Admittedly cassette, but rather high end with 126mm spacing.

And there are high quality Shimano 7 speed cassettes available, from Niagara and others.
nfmisso is offline  
Old 10-14-15, 10:19 AM
  #20  
Camplex
Senior Member
 
Camplex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 127

Bikes: Vitus 979, 1981 Peugeot Super Competition PXN10E, Peugeot P18T, Crescent Pepita Special 318 Rando, 1984 Ross Mt. Whitney, 1974 Schwinn Le Tour, Soma Grand Randonneur V.2

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Some great options above...

All I'll add is, I've actually used a pair of those cheapo Taiwanese hubs (Brand "KK" ?) and they've proved surprisingly reliable. I'd rather go vintage, though, especially vintage NOS. I'd also recommend the Phil option.

I have a SunTour 14-34 5 speed FW on one bike and that thing seems as though it will last forever... It will damn sure wear a lot slower than any new freewheel you'll purchase. I've never had to look for replacement cogs but I've seen some available online (at a premium of course). It's true that this could be an issue in the future and to ameliorate any issue like that, you could go cassette or go IRD or Shimano. But again, you're comparing grape-juice to a fine wine. Haha..
Camplex is offline  
Old 10-14-15, 11:47 AM
  #21  
noobinsf 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 1,179

Bikes: '04 Felt SR91, '82 Univega Competizione, '72 Motobecane Grand Record, '72 Puch Bergmeister

Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 314 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 15 Times in 13 Posts
Maybe these are worth a look. Sansin/Sunshine are quite durable and reliable.

Sansin Sunshine Gyromaster Front Rear Hubs 36h Classic Road Touring 126mm | eBay
noobinsf is offline  
Old 10-14-15, 12:46 PM
  #22  
Seizedpost
Bench vise user
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 528

Bikes: 2004 Orbea Marmaloda, 1982 S12-S LTD, 1956? Maino, 1985 Sagres

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for all the suggestions, but I actually ended up buying SkyDog75's wheels. They should be here in a few days.
Seizedpost is offline  
Old 10-14-15, 01:05 PM
  #23  
SkyDog75
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 3,808

Bikes: Bianchi San Mateo and a few others

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 632 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by noobinsf View Post
Maybe these are worth a look. Sansin/Sunshine are quite durable and reliable.
Coincidentally, I think those might be the exact same Sansin hubs he'll be getting with the wheels I sent yesterday. They seemed pretty decent when I disassembled & lubed them earlier this summer.
SkyDog75 is offline  
Old 10-14-15, 01:13 PM
  #24  
FastJake
Constant tinkerer
 
FastJake's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Posts: 7,639
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 24 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SkyDog75 View Post
Coincidentally, I think those might be the exact same Sansin hubs he'll be getting with the wheels I sent yesterday. They seemed pretty decent when I disassembled & lubed them earlier this summer.
I pulled apart some similar Sansin hubs that came on an old Panasonic. I was expecting cheap stuff but was pleasantly surprised at the nice appearing quality of the cones, cups, and the effectiveness of the seals.
FastJake is offline  
Old 10-16-15, 07:10 AM
  #25  
Curtis Odom 
Senior Member
 
Curtis Odom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 150
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My freewheel hubs now have an axle similar to those in cassette hubs so much stronger than the traditional designs.
Curtis Odom is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.