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Old 10-15-15, 05:19 AM
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Selle San Marco Regal(e)

I seem to be putting a left side down sag onto these saddles after only , say 1 or 2,000 miles. Love the shape when they're new though.
A bike shop guy said it was maybe some unevenness in my leg length or error in my bike fit....but then I was sending back the saddle to the distributor as I think it should last longer than that.
Does this ring any bells with anyone, either fit wise or regal(e) wise?

I have both the vintage regal and newer regale versions. As above I've sent back the badly tilting Regal but I've noticed a start of a slight sag/tilt in the newer Regale I own as well.
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Old 10-15-15, 05:42 AM
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I seem to be putting a left side down sag onto these saddles after only , say 1 or 2,000 miles. Love the shape when they're new though.
A bike shop guy said it was maybe some unevenness in my leg length or error in my bike fit....but then I was sending back the saddle to the distributor as I think it should last longer than that.
Does this ring any bells with anyone, either fit wise or regal(e) wise?

I have both the vintage regal and newer regale versions. As above I've sent back the badly tilting Regal but I've noticed a start of a slight sag/tilt in the newer Regale I own as well.
Since it appears that the issue is arising on multiple samples and versions there may be some truth to what the bike shop guy is saying.
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Old 10-15-15, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dsbrantjr View Post
Since it appears that the issue is arising on multiple samples and versions there may be some truth to what the bike shop guy is saying.
Are there some saddles that are a bit tougher then?
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Never heard of such a thing... I put 20.000 miles on my old one and only replaced it because of crash damage (still on my commute bike). These are great saddles IMO.




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Old 10-16-15, 08:12 AM
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My left leg is shorter do to joint damage resulting in my left thigh slightly rubbing the seat tube with most fits and I have never had a saddle issue with my two ancient Regals or any other of my saddles (just checked Concor & Turbos also).
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Is the sag on the seat the same direction on all the ones that have gone bad? Are you getting saddle sores on one side/same spots?

If so, there are a number of possibilities. The two biggest starting points are uneven sit bones (ischial tuberosity) and/or hip drop. Most people have uneven sit bones, it's just most of the time it is unnoticeable since any difference is negligible. Aside from an xray that can easily showcase differences, sitting on a pressure pad whilst riding can quickly show any pressure irregularities. The more likely scenario is you have hip drop, or a twisted pelvis. This can be caused by permanent anatomy, such as different leg length from natural development or past trauma, or temporary atrophy (such as a tight ITB issue pulling the hip, iliacus muscle issues, etc).

Investing in a bike fit can easily point out potential areas to address. Something like a Retul fit can easily spot differences in fitment from L/R side balance with its software. A good fitter will also take some off bike assessments of flexibility, range of motion, etc.
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Old 10-27-15, 11:19 AM
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Thanks for your replies. I like the saddle shape too when it's new.
Yes the sag is left side down for both . I don't get saddle sore but do have some lower back discomfort recently. I thought this was probably due to running such a flat fore aft saddle . I never have any pressure on my perineum which I think must mean my hips are creatively upright and my lower back is taking strain .
There's definitely something going on with my hips / leg length/ left right cleat position . My it bands do tend to be very tight as well but not to the point of knee pain .

What is a retul fit ?

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Oh... And I'm 95
Kilos . Is that an issue ?
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Everybody has some degree of asymmetry in their skeletons.

As your saddle compresses and becomes asymmetrical, does it also become less comfortable or give you a sensation of tilting to one side? If not, I'd accept that the saddle is conforming to your body shape, which is what a good saddle should do. I have no idea what the composition of your saddle is, but all-leather saddles (like Brooks) are actually designed to conform to the rider's anatomy as they stretch and "break in." Maybe that's all your saddle is doing, even if it's not all leather.

On the other hand - and this is important - if the saddle now seems to be causing you to slip or lean sideways, that could be bad for your spinal alignment.

Lots of people who ride bikes weigh much more than you do, and any good saddle should be able to handle 95 kilos (209 lbs.).

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Y it became lopsided to the point where I could feel the tilt .... And like only one sitbone was supporting me ....

It's a bit odd . I mean I have a 25 charge plug saddle that has taken 8 yeArs of commuting and is straight as a die .

My original question was really whether these saddles are a bit weedy . It seems not and I have done other things to think about .

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Merry Sales /Soma has asian made lookalikes for many classic Italian saddles .
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Merry Sales /Soma has asian made lookalikes for many classic Italian saddles .
Wow - half price!

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There's definitely something going on with my hips / leg length/ left right cleat position . My it bands do tend to be very tight as well but not to the point of knee pain .

What is a retul fit ?
Retul is a fitting service brand.

The reality with most fitting services is that "certified fitters" performing fitment didn't actually pass any test - they just took the course and paid their money to get a certificate. They fit you into general parameters and don't take full assessment of unique cases.

The unique thing with Retul is that even with a moderately bad fitter, you get fairly accurate readings of your position and it can highlight imbalance since it uses motion capture software.

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