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Old 03-17-16, 11:26 AM
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Which of these stands should I get and why?

I'm not going to be doing any kind of serious work, but I still need a stand for the minor stuff I do and washing.

So I can't decide between these two stands:

Amazon.com : Park Tool PRS-20 Team Race Stand : Bike Workstands : Sports & Outdoors

And

https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-PCS-...5AN3R25A9FVDMH

So if you were only going to pick one of the above, which would it be, and why?
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If you won't be doing much other than general maintenance and cleaning, i would keep the price down and go with the PCS-10. The PRS-20 will however be a more sturdy stand.
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Option 3: https://www.amazon.com/Feedback-Sport...eedback+sports
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I personally need the more sturdy stuff.
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If you won't be doing much other than general maintenance and cleaning, i would keep the price down and go with the PCS-10. The PRS-20 will however be a more sturdy stand.
I'm not super concerned with the difference in prices. Both are $30-40 cheaper than amazon right now with nashbar's sale.

I'd rather get the better stand and cry once. I've heard that the PRS-20 is going to be better for cleaning (since you can spin the bike around, and it's at a better height), but is there anything I'm missing out on if I get that one over the more traditional stand?
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I've been using this for the past eight years and have been pretty happy with it.

Spin Doctor Pro G3 Work Stand

My only complaints are that it's a little tricky to tighten down the clamp while holding a bike if you want to hold it by the seat post, and the built in parts tray is useless in that orientation. I usually put my bikes in by the top tube, in which case neither of those things is a problem.

The Topeak workstand on Nashbar right now appears to be the same stand just rebranded differently.

The Feedback Sports stand DOS linked to above is a bit nicer (I've seen it in use and the quick release clamp is really handy). That's probably what I'd get if I were in the market for a stand. You can find it a bit cheaper here: https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...0&category=226
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I've got the PCS10 and it is great. The PRS20 requires the removal of the front wheel so no front brake/minor truing while on the stand. Also like the ease of rotating bike 360 degrees with the PCS10 but switching from DS to NDS requires removing the bike and reclamping it.
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I've got the PCS10 and it is great. The PRS20 requires the removal of the front wheel so no front brake/minor truing while on the stand. Also like the ease of rotating bike 360 degrees with the PCS10 but switching from DS to NDS requires removing the bike and reclamping it.
Can't you just use the PRS20 mounting the rear dropout to work on the front brakes?
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I don't do any serious maintenance so I have this one.
https://www.amazon.com/Feedback-Sport...e+Repair+Stand
Great work stand.
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I haven't used the PRS-20, so I can't comment on how well I would like it, but I will say that I love the design of the PCS-10 that I have. I enjoy that it's not a centered tripod design, which means the legs in front are lower and easier to work around without sacrificing any stability. The quick release clamp is definitely worth it also, as compared to the Feedback Sports stand option. One other thing to consider, which may not be an issue to you at all, is that the steel PCS-10 is heavier and less squeaky than the feedback sports (and similar) aluminum tubing ones. I've used them once or twice and although the bike stays secure, it has a really annoying aluminum squeak during use as the bike moves around. I do not fold my PCS-10 up or move it around, so the weight is no big deal to me.

As far as the PRS-20 goes, I think if I wanted that style, I might just try to build myself one out of a fork clamp and steel tubing parts. Although I don' have machining tools or skills, I have access to some expertise through work that comes in handy at times. $230 seems high for something that seems like it could be cobbled together out of square tubing, fork mount clamps and a bit of time.

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I don't get the use case for the PRS-20 style of stand. If I'm building up a frame and haven't installed the fork yet, then how do I secure the frame on the stand? And I don't want to have to remove my front wheel just to make a derailleur adjustment or similar. Right now I've got a suspension fork with its lowers off hanging in my stand, and that wouldn't fly on the PRS-20 either. So I would go the PCS-10 for the versatility. However, I do like the Feedback stand for its 71-inch height.
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Originally Posted by JonathanGennick View Post
I don't get the use case for the PRS-20 style of stand. If I'm building up a frame and haven't installed the fork yet, then how do I secure the frame on the stand? And I don't want to have to remove my front wheel just to make a derailleur adjustment or similar. Right now I've got a suspension fork with its lowers off hanging in my stand, and that wouldn't fly on the PRS-20 either. So I would go the PCS-10 for the versatility. However, I do like the Feedback stand for its 71-inch height.
As stated above, you can remove the rear wheel and clamp the rear dropouts into the stand for fork work. The crux though is that no matter what, you have to remove a wheel. I think in some cases the PRS-20 design would be superior, and in other cases it would slow you down. More of a preference question rather than one stand not being able to do what the other one can.

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Can't you just use the PRS20 mounting the rear dropout to work on the front brakes?
Haven't used one so not sure if there is a provision for that. Rear DOs are different spacing than front DOs so there would need to be some sort of spacer (possibly a few spacers as rear DOs come in several standard spacings) to allow them to be clamped without squeezing the frame.
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What is the floor space you have to work in? the 10 & 20 have very different requirements, this can determine what you get.
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I would never get the PRS-20, having to take off a wheel to use it seems like a no-brainer to reject it already.

And the concept of the BB having to be cradled is just no good. I have an el cheapo stand that cradles the BB and has an arm to clamp the downtube, and it's terrible. Park probably did it better, but I can't imagine it is anything like as convenient as the PCS-10 where you just clamp the seatpost or seat tube or top tube or whatever you want.

As it is PRS instead of PCS, the R is Race, the only reason to get PRS-20 is if you are a race mechanic that needs a stand that packs down really small to ride in a chase car with tons of other equipment.

Some time this year I am going to ditch my current stand, and replace it with a knockoff of the PCS-10 concept, like this or this.

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Originally Posted by RonH View Post
I don't do any serious maintenance so I have this one.
https://www.amazon.com/Feedback-Sport...e+Repair+Stand
Great work stand.
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Feedback makes a good stand. I really like the spring clamp mechanism on the higher end elite but otherwise this is about the same.

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Originally Posted by CACycling View Post
Haven't used one so not sure if there is a provision for that. Rear DOs are different spacing than front DOs so there would need to be some sort of spacer (possibly a few spacers as rear DOs come in several standard spacings) to allow them to be clamped without squeezing the frame.
Yes, there's two attachments. One is for front and the other is for the rear.
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Taking off a wheel to put a bike on the stand seems like an unnecessary bother. Especially if you're planning to work on both ends of the bike.

Personally, I'd go with a PCS-10 style stand. (I've got a PCS-9 myself and I'm happy with it.) The one thing I'd advise is to also get the optional handlebar holder to keep the front wheel and handlebar from flopping around, or to improvise/fabricate an equivalent.
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PCS-10 it will handle any work you need to do. it is NOT a lightweight minor work and wash kinda stand
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I think I'm leaning towards the PCS-10 at this point...

Edit: ordered PCS-10.

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I have a PCS-10 and love it. Regret not buying it 10 years earlier.
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I've been using this for the past eight years and have been pretty happy with it.

Spin Doctor Pro G3 Work Stand
I have one of those and should have bought a Park PCS-10 like we have at my office.

On the Spin Doctor the clamp is harder to close, and it's harder to change the angle with a bike mounted.
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I have one of those and should have bought a Park PCS-10 like we have at my office.

On the Spin Doctor the clamp is harder to close, and it's harder to change the angle with a bike mounted.
Yeah, I wouldn't dispute either of those points. I guess I've just learned to deal with it, but I know exactly what you're talking about. I think the Feedback Sports Elite model addresses these problems, but it's more expensive than the PCS-10.
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If you won't be doing much other than general maintenance and cleaning, i would keep the price down and go with the PCS-10. The PRS-20 will however be a more sturdy stand.
I wouldn't say that either of the Park stands is more sturdy than the other. I would say that the PCS-10 has advantages over the PRS-20. Being able to clamp the bike (by the seatpost) and rotate it in any direction comes in handy. Additionally, you don't have to take the wheels off the bike to mount it on the stand. The PRS-20 is just more awkward to use.

My stand is closer to the PCS-4 although it has a base like the professional stand. I bought it back in the late 80s and I expect it to out live me. I've never regretted spending the extra money on the stand. It's paid for itself a thousand times over.
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How does that clamp work? Is it a strong spring, so open the jaws by pushing down the lever, insert the work piece, and let go?
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