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RAOCAMELBAK 04-14-16 05:48 AM

How to add a rear bike rack on a bike that doesn't have an obvious spot for one?
 
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Hi all,

I am just getting back into biking and primarily commute to and from work 15-20 miles/day and I got a sweet deal (I think) on a road bike but it doesn't look like there is a spot to put a rear bike rack for panniers. 2-3 days/week I stop and get 10-30lbs groceries on the way home.

The bike is a Condor Superbird S6D. I will post Technical specs on the bottom. I would love some advice for a novice on how to accomplish this, even if that involves going to a pro.



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Main Frame: KINESIS HYDRO-FORMED ALUMINUM
Rear Triangle: 7005 ALUMINUM
Fork: CONDOR CARBON FIBER
Crank Set: SRAM APEX 50/34 DOUBLE
Bottom Bracket: SRAM GXP EXTERNAL
Pedals: WELLGO CLIPLESS SPD TYPE
Front Derailleurs: SHIMANO ULTEGRA
Rear Derailleurs: SHIMANO ULTEGRA
Shifters: SHIMANO ULTEGRA
Free Wheel / Casssette: SHIMANO CS5700 10sp 11/28
Chain: 10sp
Front / Rear Hubs: VUELTA XRP
Spokes: BLADED 20/24
Rims: VUELTA XRP PRO
Tires: CONTINENTAL ULTRA RACE 700x23
Brake Set: TEKTRO CALIPERS
Brake Levers: SHIMANO ULTEGRA
Headset: FSA IS-2 THREADLESS
Handlebars: RITCHEY PRO BIO-MAX ALLOY
Tape / Grip: CONDOR CORK
Stem: RITCHEY PRO
Saddle: RITCHEY RACING
Seat Post: RITCHEY CARBON
Seat Clamp: ALLOY
Colors: MIDNIGHT BLACK GLOSS

dsbrantjr 04-14-16 05:57 AM

You could use P-clamps http://www.amazon.com/Ancor-Marine-E.../dp/B000PM1FUW or similar to mount the rack to the seat stays, and there are available seatpost clamps with tapped mounting "ears" to mount the front rack supports, like these: http://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Alloy-.../dp/B00X0JQ0A2 Shouldn't need a pro for this.

bikemig 04-14-16 05:59 AM

One possibility is to get a carradice saddlebag. Some of them are pretty large and can hold a lot. That may be your best choice because there is not a lot of heel clearance on this bike for panniers. Calhoun cycles has a pretty good stock of carradice stuff and that's local to you: Calhoun Cycle Shopcast

There are racks that mount to a seatpost that can hold up to around 20 pounds, https://www.rei.com/product/697096/t...c:cse_PLA_GOOG

Those won't be as sturdy as a rear rack. You can use p clamps for the seat stays and adapters are made for a monostay, http://www.amazon.com/SunLite-Sunlit.../dp/B01DDWDZFS

Personally I'd go talk to Calhoun cycles (they've changed their name to Perennial cycles) and see about a large carradice bag with a quick release. Those bags are as tough as door knobs, waterproof, and hold a ton of stuff. You will also avoid any problems with heel strike as well.

jimc101 04-14-16 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by RAOCAMELBAK (Post 18689447)
and get 10-30lbs groceries on the way home.

Would be looking for a more appropriate bike, your going to struggle with fitting a rack to that, even with the suggestions from #dsbrantjr which is just about the only option the bike has.

Thinking the even bigger issue will be the wheel/tire. your looking at putting a lot of additional weight on a light weight rear and skinny tire, neither will hold up long, or be nice to ride for any distance.

bikemig 04-14-16 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by jimc101 (Post 18689488)
Would be looking for a more appropriate bike, your going to struggle with fitting a rack to that, even with the suggestions from #dsbrantjr which is just about the only option the bike has.

Thinking the even bigger issue will be the wheel/tire. your looking at putting a lot of additional weight on a light weight rear and skinny tire, neither will hold up long, or be nice to ride for any distance.

A carradice bag can do the job. They're not made too far from where you live.

Heel strike will be a potential issue with any pannier set up given the short chain stays.

The seatpost is carbon. I wouldn't want to attach a clamp to that though. An aluminum seatpost would work better.

RAOCAMELBAK 04-14-16 06:20 AM

That's really good info, Thank you.

Does anyone have experience with this and whether it would be better to mount storage in the front instead?

RAOCAMELBAK 04-14-16 06:31 AM

Thanks the seat post was another concern.

I would prefer to keep myself down to a one bike set up for now. I got this bike for $500 which is really exciting for me. I can't believe how much faster it is than my 70's road bike.

RAOCAMELBAK 04-14-16 06:33 AM

How concerned should I be with the weight? I am 6'2" and weight 220.

kingston 04-14-16 07:59 AM

Relevate Pika is another saddle mounted option, but I agree with @jimc101. That bike is a terrible commuter and an even worse grocery getter.

bikemig 04-14-16 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by RAOCAMELBAK (Post 18689513)
That's really good info, Thank you.

Does anyone have experience with this and whether it would be better to mount storage in the front instead?

Carbon fork, I wouldn't clamp things on it.

Just ride the bike and don't worry about the naysayers. You'll figure out for yourself whether this is the optimal bike for commuting and grocery buying or not. I used a racing bike for a while as my sole means of transportation. If you decide it's not optimal after trying it out, you can keep this as your road bike and pick up something second hand inexpensively as a commuter.

You may decide that this is the perfect bike for your needs.

rumrunn6 04-14-16 08:51 AM

that sounds like a lot of grocery shopping on a bike when it sounds like you can get the groceries with a car?

CACycling 04-14-16 08:53 AM

The specs you are giving are not for the bike you are picturing. The bike you picture is a full carbon frame. I would not clamp anything to it.

JohnDThompson 04-14-16 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by CACycling (Post 18689946)
The specs you are giving are not for the bike you are picturing. The bike you picture is a full carbon frame. I would not clamp anything to it.

No, just the fork, according to the specs the OP provided:


Originally Posted by RAOCAMELBAK (Post 18689447)
Main Frame: KINESIS HYDRO-FORMED ALUMINUM
Rear Triangle: 7005 ALUMINUM
Fork: CONDOR CARBON FIBER


Ronno6 04-14-16 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 18689985)
No, just the fork, according to the specs the OP provided:

The pic indicates otherwise (even tho it is reversed...)

jyl 04-14-16 09:51 AM

Axiom Streamliner is a rear rack that mounts to the brake bridge and the quick release skewer. It sits rearward to avoid heel strike. I have one on a bike. Works well. About $50.

CACycling 04-14-16 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Ronno6 (Post 18690031)
The pic indicates otherwise (even tho it is reversed...)

+1 The pic is clearly a CF frame. Even says it on the seat stay.

cpach 04-14-16 01:10 PM

The specs you posted are wrong--congrats, you have a much nicer bike! Carbon frame and Ultegra components.

Carbon fiber frames are not well designed to resist clamping forces or localized forces tangential to the frame tubes. Basically, don't put a rack on the thing. The only vaguely sane idea is a rack that mounts to the brake bridge and the QR skewer, like the Axiom already mentioned or the Tubus Fly. Unless the grocery store is far away I'd suggest wearing a backpack. 30 lbs is fine for a mile or two. For what its worth I do most of my grocery shopping with a 25 liter backpack on a road bike with no rack. While panniers carry heavy loads very well, the convenience of into the store a handful of blocks away with a backpack is also pretty fantastic.

If you want some carry options, I'd get a large bikepacking saddlebag and frame bag. Not a worthwhile investment for occasional groceries, but maybe worth it if you're needing to carry spare clothes, a laptop, etc to and from work.

techsensei 04-14-16 01:41 PM

The bike is clearly not intended for carrying stuff. It's like asking how to load up a Ferrari. So you're saying you used to carry 10-30 lbs. of groceries on your old bike? Did it have a rack and panniers?
Personally, unless you can fit the same weight and bulk into a backpack or saddle bag, I say don't try. Instead, get a small trailer, like the Burley Travoy.

fietsbob 04-14-16 02:45 PM

Id get a Bike Trailer to carry stuff .. people tow them on Bike tours too .. I own two.

Extrawheel is light and uses a second front wheel like on your Bike.

https://www.bikeshophub.com/trailers...er-p-1377.html heel strike issues are Gone.


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