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Old 04-16-16, 12:48 AM
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Velocity A23 versions

There are a bunch of A23's from online vendors for about sixty-seventy bucks. They all appear - based on the decal on the sidewall that shows the cross section - to have a traditional channel, thus being the old version. The current version at Velocity's website, $94, has a tubeless-style channel. How can I tell, if I'm buying elsewhere than their website, if I'm getting the new version? The model number appears to be 4900 either way.
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Well, you could ask the seller. The information on the Web site may or may not be current/correct.
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They did not change the model number when going to a tubeless compatible profile. I ordered the exact same rims about a year apart and one is the traditional version, one is tubeless. The old version is so much easier to mount tires. Don't even need levers if you use the right technique.

Of course, if tubeless is your thing, you need the new version. The tubeless came out about three years ago, so most online shops should have sold out of the old version.
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Originally Posted by dsbrantjr View Post
Well, you could ask the seller. The information on the Web site may or may not be current/correct.
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Stock photos are just that, stock. They might not represent the exact details of the product. In this case I'd ask if you need/want one specific version of the rim.
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Originally Posted by aggiegrads View Post
The old version is so much easier to mount tires. Don't even need levers if you use the right technique.
I've got two sets of the new style. I used two layers of the 21mm Velocity tape and was able to install Continental Grand Prix 4000S II folding tires without needing levers. I used Velo plugs on the other set (before I read that they weren't recommended) and actually like the tape better. I found getting the tire down in the bottom of the rim opposite the valve and working toward the valve makes it much easier.
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Thin tape is very important with the new version. I just installed some wheels with the tubeless-ready A23s and used two layers of 1 Mil Kapton tape. After carefully pushing the bead to the center all around the tire, I was able to mount a Conti GP 4 Seasons on the rear wheel without using a tool. On the front wheel I didn't take my time with the bead and used the Kool Stop tire jack, but even that was easier than some other tubeless-ready rims I've used with different tape options.

I definitely agree that mounting tires was easier on the old A23s but it isn't too bad on the new ones if you take proper measures.

As for which version is for sale on the web, I agree that it's very likely to be the new but if I really cared I'd verify that with the seller. It's pretty easy to tell visually if you have the rim in front of you.
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