Freewheel "wobble" (for lack of a better term)
this past winter i had some velo orange grand cru high flange hubs built up.
I installed a cheap freewheel on them and noticed that the freewheel wobbled. This is hard to describe: looking down on the bike from above, if I spin the wheel there is a discernible wobble in the freewheel. That is: even when the cogs are not turning they move in and out in relation to the centerline of the bike/wheel. I can't imagine this is good for the chain, the cogs, or pedalling efficiency. I took it to the LBS that built the wheels and they saw it immediately and told me the freewheel was bad. So I ordered an expensive, IRD freewheel. Which is beautiful. I didn't even bother to look at first to see if it wobbled. But I was just changing the brakes and indeed the thing wobbles just like the other one. Is this normal? Other data: the rim is true and about as straight as a wheel can get. My suspicion is that there is a flaw in the hub -- like the threads where the freewheel mount is not perfectly in line with the axle. Thoughts? |
Originally Posted by wannabemekon
(Post 18711195)
My suspicion is that there is a flaw in the hub -- like the threads where the freewheel mount is not perfectly in line with the axle.
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I can't recall ever seeing a freewheel that didn't wobble, though I'm sure somewhere one must exist, if purely by accident.
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Originally Posted by corrado33
(Post 18711233)
DING DING DING. That's the exact reason and it's perfectly normal.
I'm rather surprise that they wobble like they do. Why would that be the case? |
Maybe you could spend a few $mil and design one that doesn't.
It's called manufacturing tolerances and work fine for us humans. |
Originally Posted by wannabemekon
(Post 18711293)
Wait: so a flaw is normal?
I'm rather surprise that they wobble like they do. Why would that be the case? |
I'm happy to live with it. It just seems odd given how precise so much gear seems to be.
Wobble or not, the hubs look nice...and that's what matters, or so I tell my kids. |
They are actually meant to wobble like that. It is done on purpose and was made that way before there were ramps for shifting, and the wobble helps the cogs pick up the chain when you shift
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Originally Posted by BenPS
(Post 18711365)
They are actually meant to wobble like that. It is done on purpose and was made that way before there were ramps for shifting, and the wobble helps the cogs pick up the chain when you shift
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Originally Posted by wannabemekon
(Post 18711195)
I took it to the LBS that built the wheels and they saw it immediately and told me the freewheel was bad.
Thoughts? |
but for real, if it's not wobbling so bad that your crank pulsates, it won't affect your shifting at all. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
also - who is still building bikes with freewheels? |
Originally Posted by BenPS
(Post 18711445)
but for real, if it's not wobbling so bad that your crank pulsates, it won't affect your shifting at all. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
also - who is still building bikes with freewheels? http://bikeserver.weebly.com/uploads...1436185517.png |
Originally Posted by BenPS
(Post 18711445)
but for real, if it's not wobbling so bad that your crank pulsates, it won't affect your shifting at all. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
also - who is still building bikes with freewheels? Cheers |
I think a better term is "nutation". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutation
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Originally Posted by wannabemekon
(Post 18711195)
Is this normal?
[…] My suspicion is that there is a flaw in the hub -- like the threads where the freewheel mount is not perfectly in line with the axle. |
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 18711706)
When you're pedaling there is no wobble.
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I've been out of biking for a long time. What took the place of the freewheel? Are you saying that current bikes don't have coasting capability with the rear cassette?
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Originally Posted by 1saxman
(Post 18712247)
I've been out of biking for a long time. What took the place of the freewheel? Are you saying that current bikes don't have coasting capability with the rear cassette?
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I'm Still fine with My 6 speed freewheels* .. (Though the IGH bikes are my daily Riders)
Indexing is fussier with hanger alignment and planar wobble . also where freehubs have become standard. *Though I invested in a much better Hub, Phil Wood. Axle is super strong. |
Uh - how does it ride? It's a functional sport.
If it rides OK and doesn't throw the chain and shifts all right, that's what a bicycle is supposed to do. If it does one of those bad things, that's when to start worrying not before. |
Originally Posted by BenPS
(Post 18711365)
They are actually meant to wobble like that. It is done on purpose and was made that way before there were ramps for shifting, and the wobble helps the cogs pick up the chain when you shift
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Originally Posted by Ronno6
(Post 18712658)
I believe that this is correct.......
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No two cylinders can be perfectly round, or concentric, or co-axial.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
(Post 18712972)
Incorrect.
In these days of CNC machining accuracy, I find it difficult to believe that such machining errors exist, especially from a company such as Velo Orange. Again, my opinion................. |
Originally Posted by BenPS
(Post 18711445)
who is still building bikes with freewheels?
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