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elizwlsn 05-17-16 09:45 AM

How did you all learn to work on your bikes?
 
I've been riding my bike since I was about 40 not counting my childhood and I'm 65 now. I've been lucky enough to never have had a flat on the road or any serious mechanical issues on the road. I've always had my bikes tuned up at a shop and if I got a slow leak I pumped it up until I could get to a shop. I always lived in a city though or on longer rides was with someone, usually a guy that could help if I had a problem. Now I'm in the country and going 20 or 30 miles on a regular basis with no one around during the day to come rescue me if I do have a mechanical issue. I am hoping for extended touring in my future.

Last month I took a fix a flat class at REI. Next month I have a cleaning and detailing class to go to. I haven't seen anything else offered at my REI. How do you all learn?

bluenote157 05-17-16 09:55 AM

You can start here.. Home Page | Park Tool
Or if you have Shimano components, you can go to their website and find the install sheets.

Once you understand how most things work you'll be on your way.

Retro Grouch 05-17-16 10:02 AM

I learned two ways:

1. "Anybody's Bike Book" I think the author's name was Cultherson. Basic but it was good enough to get me started. The Leonard Zinn maintenance books are similar but somewhat more modern.
2. Making dumb mistakes.

Mostly the second.

HillRider 05-17-16 10:03 AM

Books. I got every repair manual I could find, most from my local library at first, and read them thoroughly. When I started riding in the mid-80's the internet wasn't available so that's how we did it.

dr_lha 05-17-16 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by elizwlsn (Post 18774652)
I've been lucky enough to never have had a flat on the road...

Lucky? No flats in 25 years of cycling? You should be playing the lottery. ;)

As for your question: Bikes are simple things mechanically. If you are in any way inclined you should be able to work them out. I've never read a book, but I have watched plenty of you tube videos for the minutiae.

Jseis 05-17-16 10:09 AM

Takes apart things and putting them back together. Plus the Gearhead Gene. At 12 years of age I completely dismantled my Honda 50 and put it back together. The first car I had at 16 was a truck that I transplanted a "new" engine into. Ok, dad was jourenyman electrician/scientist and my grandfathers were master mechanics/master electricians/civil engineers/farm boys...so that helped.

Little Darwin 05-17-16 10:09 AM

I learned from books I checked out from a library in the 70's. :)

I have added to that over the past decade by looking around the internet. Primarily Sheldon Brown's site, and YouTube. YouTube is great once you find a good video on the topic you want to gain knowledge on... but there are some out there who seem to have learned from trial and error, so you might want to check out a few videos before diving in. In a few cases you may find one that talks about the exact component you need to install/adjust.

Also, searching this forum has proved beneficial.

If you have any mechanical aptitude, you will find that a bicycle is very easy to maintain. Most things are almost intuitive, others you just need to learn a tip or two to get to the point where it becomes intuitive.

SkyDog75 05-17-16 10:19 AM

When I was a kid, I rode my bike to get around. If I got a flat, I needed to fix it or my transportation was out of commission. So I grabbed some wrenches and figured out how to get the wheel off, and I read the directions on the patch kit. I've always been mechanically inclined and bikes are pretty simple machines, so it wasn't the most difficult thing to take apart and get back together.

As for dealing with other mechanical problems on the road, the best advice I can give you is to practice at home by doing your own maintenance. There are great tutorials online, like the ones at the Park Tool web site. If you work on the bike and learn how it works, you'll gain knowledge and experience that'll help you deal with unexpected problems that may come up while you're riding.

blakcloud 05-17-16 10:33 AM

The bulk of my learning was;
  1. Watching bike mechanics work.
  2. Books
  3. Lately, videos.
  4. Last and the most important, this forum. There is a wealth of talented individuals who share their knowledge here.

kennj123 05-17-16 10:50 AM

Just to add to what others have said, you might want to get a second clunker bike to experiment on. Youtube videos can be really good too.

lostarchitect 05-17-16 10:53 AM

1. This web forum!
2. Trial & Error
3. Sheldon Brown and Park Tools websites

fietsbob 05-17-16 10:54 AM

4) get books on bike mechanics from the public library ..


I started mechanical curiosity as a Child turned my JC Higgins(Puch) 3 speed into a 3x3x3 speed in 1957 (Aged 10)

cny-bikeman 05-17-16 11:51 AM

As you can see there are many different routes. More important than how someone else learned to work on bikes is how you have learned to work on or do other things. Only you can determine which learning method works for you. Some people are very visual and kinesthetic - they do best with in-person instruction, though most everyone can benefit from the immediate feedback of such an option. Others learn well from written instructions and pictures, while other prefer videos (though I strongly advise to learn from manuals and online written guides first, as videos often leave out important info or include incorrect procedures or info).

I fall into a final category - I just started learning on my own when still in grade school. Of course at that time I had only a Schwinn coaster brake bike, but I knew how to (and did) lube, adjust and overhaul every part of it by the time I was 13 years old. The only major mistake I made was very carefully making sure there was no grease on the brake shoes when I reassembled the coaster brake hub - after all, you want more friction on brakes - right?

My learning type is very much based on observation and logic. I don't know why, but I have always been good at figuring out not only how things work but also how they interact with each other. I have not ever read a bike repair manual or taken a class, though once I started working at a shop I used Sutherland's Manual on a regular basis. I'm not recommending that, of course. One would be a fool to not take advantage of the wealth of information now available.

dubes 05-17-16 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by dr_lha (Post 18774731)
Lucky? No flats in 25 years of cycling? You should be playing the lottery. ;)

My theory is ignorance is bliss. It was 20 years before I even knew bike tires could flat (I mean, besides air gradually escaping over time, but basketballs and footballs are like that, too, so all within the realm of "experience"). In that time, I never flatted once.

Then I started educating myself on bike repair, including how to change a tire. Lo and behold, I've started getting flats. :(

dubes 05-17-16 12:11 PM

As for the OP, my approach was buying a few books, visiting parktool.com and sheldonbrown.com, and reading this forum. I started with simple stuff (v-brakes) and worked my way up. Still don't build my own wheels (I have neither the time nor the patience for it).

Mike

texaspandj 05-17-16 12:42 PM

I remember reading a similar question in a motorcycle magazine. The staff wrote, volunteer to help assemble new bikes at a shop. So probably could work for you.
I do not consider myself a mechanic or mechanically inclined. In fact I was reluctant to reply on this thread, but I figured I could give you inspiration. Now my uncle he was a mechanic, they just think differently somehow. However I can do all the work myself. This year I finally bought bottom bracket and headset tools and can live LBS free now.
I learned the other stuff, fix a flat,gear adjustments, wheel,seat,wrap,derailleurs,cables installments in books I bought and from the library there wasn't a Internet back in the 80s. Now if I have a question I come here. When I needed a bottom bracket installation tutorial I went to you tube. Now I've done several. I built a few bikes from frame however will not, cannot build wheels. Best wishes.

Raiden 05-17-16 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by lostarchitect (Post 18774886)
1. This web forum!
2. Trial & Error
3. Sheldon Brown and Park Tools websites

+1

SquidPuppet 05-17-16 12:55 PM

1. Took stuff apart
2. Stared at the pieces and thought for a long time
3. Stared some more. Thought a lot more.
4. Cleaned the pieces, applied grease, and reassembled.

If I failed at 1-4 (not uncommon) I'd ask the mechanics at a shop.

Standalone 05-17-16 01:38 PM

In 1989 I read in some library book about hanging a bike from rafters with two loops of rope -- one around the quill stem and one over the nose of the saddle.

Replaced the post-type FD on my mother's old Atala with a schwinn branded "le tour," replaced cables and pads and such, and never looked back. I was 11.

I pretty much followed the "take things apart and look at them" model of self-education.

bikernew 05-17-16 01:50 PM

Being mechanically inclined, just decided to take on the work myself. Started with the take apart, look at, clean, put back together approach. Then started watching vids on youtube... you can learn a LOT there!(and BIKEMAN4U is just too funny not to watch!):D
Also the aforementioned references, and the forum here for fellow bikers insight and expertise when in a jam:thumb:

rms13 05-17-16 02:24 PM

Youtube

Andy_K 05-17-16 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Retro Grouch (Post 18774712)
2. Making dumb mistakes.

This, I think, is how most people learn most things. I would elaborate a bit more. Here's how I remember the process working:

1. Read sheldonbrown.com to find out how to do something.
2. Try it myself and get it wrong.
3. Read Sheldon's page again.
4. Try again.
5. Take the bike to the LBS to be fixed. Ask if I can watch them fix it. (I can't remember the answer ever being "no" but I'm talking about simple things like brake and derailleur adjustment.)
6. Read Sheldon's page again and compare it against what I did and what the guy at the LBS did.
7. Try again.

As wonderful a resource as it is, Sheldon's web site doesn't cover everything so I eventually had to substitute other resources for reference (most Lennard Zinn's books and YouTube videos) and I got into things that were complex enough that the LBS wouldn't have let me stand by and watch as they fixed my mistakes, but by that point I had enough of a feel for things to generally be able to figure it out on my own.

JohnDThompson 05-17-16 02:30 PM

Started out as a poor college student trying to maintain my bike on a low budget. So I bought some books.

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/books.jpg

Got a job in a bike shop for a few years, then got a job in a bike factory for a few more years, then got more bike shop jobs.

It's good work, but don't expect to get rich.

mconlonx 05-17-16 02:33 PM

Trial and error.
Books.
Magazine articles. (din't have no fancy-shmancy interwebz back in tha day *spitoon*)
Working on my own bike.
Building up my own bike from components to finished bike.
Going to bike mechanic school.
Working in a shop.

Now, I teach others to work on bikes at a local high school adult ed course.

jimmie65 05-17-16 04:58 PM

I picked up cheap (or free) used bikes, tore them apart and put them back together. Watched lots of Youtube. And read through almost every post on the forums.
And yet I still don't know a damn thing.


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