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Old 05-29-16, 02:31 AM
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Bike feeling sluggish after wheel change.

Hi guys.


recently the bearings went in my fulcrum 7s so I have swapped
them for campagnolo zondas with a continental gp4000s ii tyres.

for some reason it just feels like i have to put so much more
effort in to maintain the same speed as before and climbing has totally
gone out of the window for me. i also seem to have to be a gear
or two lower on the flat.

I have been racking my brain for what the reason could be.

i have tried going a few days without riding to see if it was fatigue
which i don't think it was.

when i fitted the new cassette i only put the spacer that came with the
the new wheels on and not the one that came with the cassette as i kind of forgot.
could this be the problem?

Does the knew combo take a few miles to break in?

Would the Zondas be slower than the Fulcrums?

i'm open to any suggestions as i am really not enjoying my riding as much
at the moment and i am thinking of swapping back to the fulcrums just because
the felt faster with bad bearings.

Thanks

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If the wheel is rubbing the frame or brakes, or tires are really low, then you will feel a difference. Even tight bearingwouldn't be noticable unless they were so tight you can barely turn them by hand.

Are the rims wider, and perhaps rubbing the brake pads?
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thanks for the reply.

i always pump the tyres up before a ride and i have checked the brakes aren't rubbing the rims
and i don't think they are rubbing the frame unless they are moving while i am riding but i wouldn't know how to check that?
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Sounds like the "inverse placebo" effect.
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Same tires?
Same cassette?
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New tires, new cassette, new chain.

inverse placebo sounds about right actually
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Originally Posted by chris2392
New tires, new cassette, new chain.

inverse placebo sounds about right actually
Same brand & size tire?
Same ratio's on the cassette?
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Campy wheels have a very restrictive weight limit - like 180 lbs or something - I believe because their hubs do not have the same outboard axle support as SHimano style hubs. If you exceed this weight then perhaps the hub is overstressed and causing more drag. Just a wild guess.
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Different brand of tire buy same size and yes same cassette ratio.
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Ahh I see, that may be why. I did buy the campag wheels with shimano hubs? I have no idea how much I weigh but I guess it is just under 180.. I'll have to read up about that though!
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something you ate?
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Originally Posted by chris2392
Ahh I see, that may be why. I did buy the campag wheels with shimano hubs? I have no idea how much I weigh but I guess it is just under 180.. I'll have to read up about that though!
Nah. If you are not significantly over the weight limit then you have nothing to worry about. The 'Shimano' wheels from campy have the campy mechanism but with a shimano spline pattern.
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Originally Posted by Wilfred Laurier
Campy wheels have a very restrictive weight limit - like 180 lbs or something - I believe because their hubs do not have the same outboard axle support as SHimano style hubs. If you exceed this weight then perhaps the hub is overstressed and causing more drag. Just a wild guess.
Wut ?!?!
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something you ate?

Yeah i've really got to cut down on the concrete blocks..
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do you think swapping from 23 to 25 tires would help take some of the stress away from the axel?
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Originally Posted by chris2392
do you think swapping from 23 to 25 tires would help take some of the stress away from the axel?
Not at all. Also, I hope you aren't considering that because of what I suggested earlier about the weight limit - campy wheels are sccessfully used by racers close to the weight limit, so this is almost certainly not the problem.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
Wut ?!?!
What wut?
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Originally Posted by chris2392
do you think swapping from 23 to 25 tires would help take some of the stress away from the axel?
That's what happens to a thread like this. You drag it around until the wheels fall off.


Then it starts smoking.
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If you figure it out, send me a PM cause I had a day just like that today. For whatever reason, what should have been a fine and rewarding club ride turned into an ordeal.
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Originally Posted by chris2392
do you think swapping from 23 to 25 tires would help take some of the stress away from the axel?
Stress on the axle is based on rider and bike weight. Different tires will not help you lose weight.
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Originally Posted by Wilfred Laurier
What wut?
I had never heard of a 180 weight limit for Campy wheels.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
I had never heard of a 180 weight limit for Campy wheels.
I was surprised when I saw ig too. I read it on their website two or three years ago. I may be mistaken and it has changed..
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
I had never heard of a 180 weight limit for Campy wheels.
Me neither, but since the OP previously had Fulcrum wheels which use the same hub design as Campagnolo wheels because they are made by Campagnolo, there should besically be no difference
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
I had never heard of a 180 weight limit for Campy wheels.
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Me neither, but since the OP previously had Fulcrum wheels which use the same hub design as Campagnolo wheels because they are made by Campagnolo, there should besically be no difference
So I was wrong - 240 lb weight limit but with special concerns if you are over 180 lbs: What are the weight limits of the wheels? Where can I find the weight limits allowed by the wheels? - Info on Campagnolo wheels Campagnolo
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Originally Posted by Wilfred Laurier
Thanks for the update.
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