Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Kool Stop brake pads with 105

Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Kool Stop brake pads with 105

Old 06-08-16, 10:10 AM
  #1  
brian_h
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Kool Stop brake pads with 105

Hi all,
I'm new to this forum. I'm wondering if anyone else has installed "Kool Stop Bicycle Brake Pads (Dura-Ace/Ultegra)" on 105 brake calipers? I tried the other day and it seems like the nut/bolt was too wide to fit through the slot.
These are the pads I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/Kool-Stop-Bicy...dp/B0014BRW6E?
I thought that they'd work despite not having "105" in the title, but now I'm not so sure. I read somewhere that another guy with the same problem filed the slot wider and used an extra washer to make them work. Are there any other suggestions out there?
thanks!
brian_h is offline  
Old 06-08-16, 10:25 AM
  #2  
fietsbob
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 43,599

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 197 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7607 Post(s)
Liked 1,318 Times in 828 Posts
I have KS Salmon Dura 2 on my brakes made with holders Interchangeable with the Shimano 105/ultegra / etc..

The screw in the holder is backed out you slip the pad in and screw the set screw back in ,

it's there so the pad won't slip out the back, if the brakes are applied

in a situation like keeping the bike from slipping back down hill by braking when you are walking it up that hill

I patronize my LBS rather than amazon, If You do that the shop will show you, in person, how to do It.
fietsbob is offline  
Old 06-08-16, 01:28 PM
  #3  
FBinNY 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 35,964

Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter

Mentioned: 125 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4366 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 32 Times in 31 Posts
Kool Stop makes a number of shoes, some of which are specific replacements, some close but no cigar.

If buying complete holder + insert shoes, you need to be sure to buy the Shimano version because the Campy won't fit. Or if you still have the original 105 shoes, you can save money by buying only the inserts (for Shimano road).

The one piece molded road shoes should all fit because they use a plain 6mm stud and nut.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

“Never argue with an idiot. He will only bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.”, George Carlin

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline  
Old 06-08-16, 04:26 PM
  #4  
Crankycrank
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,279
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 428 Post(s)
Liked 297 Times in 231 Posts
They should work in all 105 calipers as far as I know, no filing nec. Does the package say it's for Shimano? Possibly they sent you the Campy version.
Crankycrank is offline  
Old 06-10-16, 01:56 PM
  #5  
Jean_TX
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Round Rock
Posts: 121
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
If your 105's are old (like mine), some newer pads may have too large a bolt to fit through the slot. I had this problem with my 1998 105's when I tried unsuccessfully to fit new Koolstops like you mentioned (and also new Shimano pads). I finally surrendered and filed the slots a bit wider.
Jean_TX is offline  
Old 06-10-16, 02:24 PM
  #6  
Litespeedlouie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 311

Bikes: Litespeed, O'Brien, Specialized, Fuji

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
I also had to file out my 80s-90s vintage Ultegras to get Kool Stops to fit.
Litespeedlouie is offline  
Old 06-11-16, 05:58 PM
  #7  
DasPirate
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I use the Dura 2 inserts in my original 105 5500 holders. They fit perfectly.
DasPirate is offline  
Old 06-12-16, 06:36 AM
  #8  
HillRider
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 32,857

Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!

Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1670 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 529 Times in 396 Posts
Originally Posted by Litespeedlouie View Post
I also had to file out my 80s-90s vintage Ultegras to get Kool Stops to fit.
I also had to file out the same brakes to get the Kool Stop holders to fit. The amount of material I had to remove was quite small and I filed from the "trailing edge" of the slot to keep the full thickness in the load bearing direction. They've been working fine for decades since.
HillRider is offline  
Old 06-12-16, 11:25 AM
  #9  
Litespeedlouie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 311

Bikes: Litespeed, O'Brien, Specialized, Fuji

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Now that I looked, my calipers had small steel inserts in each slot that I had to file. I marked the approximate area to file out and used a rattail file to make smooth dips. I was too lazy to make the full slots wider. The steel was pretty tough and it took a fair amount of time to do all 8 inserts for one bike. A Dremel might help. I figured using a drill would be a disaster; it'd probably just catch, distort the inserts, and be off center. This was Shimano Ultegra/600 from 1989. Adjusting the Kool Stops is a little trickier as they have a dome washer that allows total positional movement. Still using it every day as a commuter.
Litespeedlouie is offline  
Old 06-12-16, 11:35 AM
  #10  
brian_h
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks all. I double-checked the package, and it was Shimano. Since others seemed to have a similar experience of needing to file, that's what I did. Like HillRider said, it was an extremely small amount that needed to be filed off. I should have mentioned initially that this is an early 90's bike. Perhaps that would have been relevant information for some of you.

thanks again!
brian_h is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
LKA
Classic & Vintage
7
04-17-18 10:41 PM
xinlitik
Bicycle Mechanics
11
07-17-14 10:22 PM
Janotaking
Bicycle Mechanics
1
06-01-13 01:28 PM
DayTrick
Road Cycling
6
07-19-11 09:56 PM
aarider
Bicycle Mechanics
8
05-03-10 05:15 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.