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Old 06-10-16, 07:39 PM
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Help to find a second wheel for my bike with a 11speed and Disc mount or a solution.

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I got a kinetic trainer for my 2015 cannondale synapse disc and I like to get a second wheel for it so I don't have to change tires for outside just change a wheel I have been looking everywhere and I can't find a reasonable price hub or any wheel set what would fit also it's a 11 speed I don't even care if it don't have a disc mount I don't need that inside but it needs to be 135mm and 11 speed any suggestions would be appreciated .

Hub prices are crazy some are like $200-400 . But I just need it for the trainer.

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52 plus views and no one has anything to say? any advise what should I do why is it so hard to find hubs for this bike also I can't find the original formula DC 22 hub came with the bike if I need to replace it for some reason.

As you can see I'm new to the this

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Maybe everyone thought you could Google 11 speed wheel as well as them?
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29" Shimano Deore Crosser x11 MTB Mountain Bike Rear Wheel 6 Bolt Is Disc QR | eBay
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Cheap is the problem. 135mm and 11 speed ROAD hubs just aren't that common yet so they haven't trickled down to cheapo wheels yet. I looked for awhile for a nice used extra set before I gave up and bought some fulcrums off wiggle. One tip if you don't already know about it is Mavic started making their freehub bodies wider than standard for whatever reason a long time ago including their MTB ones. If you can find somebody selling a cheap 29er rear mavic wheel with a mavic hub in 135mm you should be good.

Some of the big online bike parts sellers are starting to include a cyclocross option in their wheel sections. Those are much more likely to be 135mm and 11 speed road compatible.
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The MTB wheel linked to above won't work, as MTB and Road 11 speed freehubs are different lengths (the road is longer)

Shimano have the RS505 hub, effectively a 135mm centerlock 11 speed version of the current 5800 (105) hub, this is one of the cheapest options out there (it's a nice hub, I have one), Novatec do some, but are more, then you jump to White Industries/Chris King level.

Not really surprising there aren't that many options out there, back in the 90's people built wheels, then came along the Factory Wheels and since then it's not really been cost effective to build anymore vs just buying a complete wheel. Look at Campagnolo, they only have 2 hub options where as 10 years of so ago, they had a hub for every groupset.
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Originally Posted by jimc101
The MTB wheel linked to above won't work, as MTB and Road 11 speed freehubs are different lengths (the road is longer)
He has to buy a cassette anyway, so why not a mountain one? Of course with an 11 speed mountain cassette the gearings would be all wrong and the derailleur would need to be limited to the smaller cogs, but it is just for a trainer.

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Originally Posted by techsensei
He has to buy a cassette anyway, so why not a mountain one? Of course with an 11 speed mountain cassette the gearings would be all wrong and the derailleur would need to be limited to the smaller cogs, but it is just for a trainer.
The spacing is different with Dyna-Sys 11 so it won't work.

You get a MTB wheel, cassette and run a Tanpan, but by the time you did that, and got a MTB RD you would also need, you may as well have just bought a high end hub road disc hub, which is not what the OP wanted.
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I did of course but not too many out there and very pricey...
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Originally Posted by jimc101
The spacing is different with Dyna-Sys 11 so it won't work.
OIC. Learn something new every day. I never see all ths fancy pants stuff, 'cause at the co-op, we just work on old stuff.

What about a 11-speed road cassette, but take one cog out?
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Originally Posted by techsensei
What about a 11-speed road cassette, but take one cog out?
Now that's a possibility (not tried it myself) Dark Speed Works - Use 9/10s Wheels With 11s Shimano
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Originally Posted by jimc101
Now that's a possibility (not tried it myself) Dark Speed Works - Use 9/10s Wheels With 11s Shimano
Thanks sounds like a good idea!
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So I find this option on EBAY. Seems like this would work what do you think?

Alex CXD 5 Road Cyclocross Bicycle 700c Wheelset Disc Brake Rims 9 10 11 Speed | eBay
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Originally Posted by jimc101
The spacing is different with Dyna-Sys 11 so it won't work.

You get a MTB wheel, cassette and run a Tanpan, but by the time you did that, and got a MTB RD you would also need, you may as well have just bought a high end hub road disc hub, which is not what the OP wanted.
A mtb cassette and road cassette have the same spacing and you CAN run a 11 speed mtb cassette with 11 speed road shifter and RD. You just have to use one of these

RoadLink ? wolftoothcomponents.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ_JABtPirA

but it isn't what the OP would want to do.
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Most important things are 700c and 135mm spacing. Mavic Aksium is one of the least expensive road disc wheels out there. Don't bother adding a rotor, just a tube and trainer tire and you're set.
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Im in same ball park as you. More recent thread I posted. Let you know if I find anything. Ive been searching high and low as well
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Originally Posted by apn
Most important things are 700c and 135mm spacing. Mavic Aksium is one of the least expensive road disc wheels out there. Don't bother adding a rotor, just a tube and trainer tire and you're set.
I'd argue that the 135mm thing isn't even a big deal. Use a 130mm wheel with an extra 5mm spacer on the non-drive side. Loosen each drive side spoke nipple 1/2 turn and tighten each NDS spoke the same done to correct the dish. Done.
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Have you talked to Cannondale?

If it is a Formula hub, you might talk directly to Formula and see if you can order it. An advantage of going with an identical hub is it should help with derailleur and brake adjustment.

Shimano should have at least a few hubs.
Here's one to consider.

FH-RS505 11 spd., 135mm centerlock
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Originally Posted by johnyguy
Hello

I got a kinetic trainer for my 2015 cannondale synapse disc and I like to get a second wheel for it so I don't have to change tires for outside just change a wheel I have been looking everywhere and I can't find a reasonable price hub or any wheel set what would fit also it's a 11 speed I don't even care if it don't have a disc mount I don't need that inside but it needs to be 135mm and 11 speed any suggestions would be appreciated .

Hub prices are crazy some are like $200-400 . But I just need it for the trainer.

Thanks
John
Hi John,

Two options that worked for me.
A 11 speed road cassette will fit on a 10 speed hub with 1 cog/spacer removed.
Another option depending on your derailleur is an 11 speed mountain cassette will fit on a 10 speed. The offset will allow it to fit.
I did both of these when I converted my Fuji Tread over from 10 speed to 11 speed Ultegra Di2 right before I was going on vacation and couldn't get a wheel before I left.

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I have 6 bolt mounted disc not the one you mentioned.
Originally Posted by CliffordK
Have you talked to Cannondale?

If it is a Formula hub, you might talk directly to Formula and see if you can order it. An advantage of going with an identical hub is it should help with derailleur and brake adjustment.

Shimano should have at least a few hubs.
Here's one to consider.

FH-RS505 11 spd., 135mm centerlock
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Thanks! yes there is a way to move the spacer from the 11 speed and make it to 10 speed and also I find a set of wheels on eBay i linked in my earlier post a set for Alex build of wheels got good reviews $225 that's not a bad price .
Also I was just thinking to buy a gatorskin tire for the rear and ride it inside and outside as well and see how long is last being used like that.
Originally Posted by Gadgets4grls
Hi John,

Two options that worked for me.
A 11 speed road cassette will fit on a 10 speed hub with 1 cog/spacer removed.
Another option depending on your derailleur is an 11 speed mountain cassette will fit on a 10 speed. The offset will allow it to fit.
I did both of these when I converted my Fuji Tread over from 10 speed to 11 speed Ultegra Di2 right before I was going on vacation and couldn't get a wheel before I left.

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I think you are talking about this an other member posted earlier.
Originally Posted by Gadgets4grls
Hi John,
Dark Speed Works - Use 9/10s Wheels With 11s Shimano
Two options that worked for me.
A 11 speed road cassette will fit on a 10 speed hub with 1 cog/spacer removed.
Another option depending on your derailleur is an 11 speed mountain cassette will fit on a 10 speed. The offset will allow it to fit.
I did both of these when I converted my Fuji Tread over from 10 speed to 11 speed Ultegra Di2 right before I was going on vacation and couldn't get a wheel before I left.

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https://darkspeedworks.com/blog-11speed.htm
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Hi no I have not I will call them and see what they say.
Thanks
Originally Posted by CliffordK
Have you talked to Cannondale?

If it is a Formula hub, you might talk directly to Formula and see if you can order it. An advantage of going with an identical hub is it should help with derailleur and brake adjustment.

Shimano should have at least a few hubs.
Here's one to consider.

FH-RS505 11 spd., 135mm centerlock
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May I ask what kind of wheel did you get I have 105 derailleur. Did you have disk brakes too?
Thanks
Originally Posted by Gadgets4grls
Hi John,

Two options that worked for me.
A 11 speed road cassette will fit on a 10 speed hub with 1 cog/spacer removed.
Another option depending on your derailleur is an 11 speed mountain cassette will fit on a 10 speed. The offset will allow it to fit.
I did both of these when I converted my Fuji Tread over from 10 speed to 11 speed Ultegra Di2 right before I was going on vacation and couldn't get a wheel before I left.

Gadgets
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Originally Posted by johnyguy
Hello

I got a kinetic trainer for my 2015 cannondale synapse disc and I like to get a second wheel for it so I don't have to change tires for outside
If you're not running knobby cross tires you don't need a different tire and wheel for your trainer.
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