spoke threading machine
07-19-16, 11:52 AM
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spoke threading machine
Hey I got an old Spoke threading machine, on ebay.
It kinda reminds me of a Singer sewing machine. Black cast iron frame, with wooden wheel to turn the shaft.
Its got a 15g thread die.
Im wanting to change it for a 14g spoke thread rolling head. Ive looked on ebay. Sent messages to the sellers of Cyclo spoke rolling heads. Also sent questions to some bike shop websites.
Not got any response yet.
So does anyone know what the shaft diameter of the Cyclo Spoke thread rolling head is?
The shaft on my machine is 9.5mm. I guess 3/8" Its got a flat machined on it, for the clamp screw
It kinda reminds me of a Singer sewing machine. Black cast iron frame, with wooden wheel to turn the shaft.
Its got a 15g thread die.
Im wanting to change it for a 14g spoke thread rolling head. Ive looked on ebay. Sent messages to the sellers of Cyclo spoke rolling heads. Also sent questions to some bike shop websites.
Not got any response yet.
So does anyone know what the shaft diameter of the Cyclo Spoke thread rolling head is?
The shaft on my machine is 9.5mm. I guess 3/8" Its got a flat machined on it, for the clamp screw
07-19-16, 12:14 PM
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Hozan spoke thread roller
Bicycle Tools | C-700 SPOKE THREAD CHASER
is what we Use for the occasional spoke in a length not stocked.
Bicycle Tools | C-701 SPOKE THREADING MASTER
Yours may no longer be supported , company closed..
Maybe a Machine Shop can make your old thing compatible with current spares
from other sources..
Google is so Hard?
?
Bicycle Tools | C-700 SPOKE THREAD CHASER
is what we Use for the occasional spoke in a length not stocked.
Bicycle Tools | C-701 SPOKE THREADING MASTER
Yours may no longer be supported , company closed..
Maybe a Machine Shop can make your old thing compatible with current spares
from other sources..
Google is so Hard?
?
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07-20-16, 12:56 AM
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Er....I have seen the ebay adverts for the tools.
Also looked on Hozans website.
They aren't helpful at all.
I am wanting to fit the Cyclo Spoke thread rolling head to the spoke thread machine that I have. Its got a 9.5mm shaft. None of the adverts say the size of the shaft.
As for getting something machined. Have you ever tried that. The engineers shop will say we'll do it when we've got time. That will mean in 6 months or so. It would cost more than a new Spoke threading machine, for 5 minutes work. :/
Also looked on Hozans website.
They aren't helpful at all.
I am wanting to fit the Cyclo Spoke thread rolling head to the spoke thread machine that I have. Its got a 9.5mm shaft. None of the adverts say the size of the shaft.
As for getting something machined. Have you ever tried that. The engineers shop will say we'll do it when we've got time. That will mean in 6 months or so. It would cost more than a new Spoke threading machine, for 5 minutes work. :/
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07-20-16, 07:59 AM
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Oh would it? Its been ages since I did any machining work.
But how long can it take to measure the part. Then fit it in the lathe. then set the cutting tool. then run it along a couple times.
One of my fave youtube channels is Keith Rucker. He is a machinist that makes things. Seems to take him no time to machine things.
If you are a machinist. Well your estimate must be right, for the way you work.
If you've been told this by a machine shop. I think they've been havering. Either to put you off. Or to charge you hundreds for the work.
No point in paying a large sum to get some work done. When a new tool is just about the same money
But how long can it take to measure the part. Then fit it in the lathe. then set the cutting tool. then run it along a couple times.
One of my fave youtube channels is Keith Rucker. He is a machinist that makes things. Seems to take him no time to machine things.
If you are a machinist. Well your estimate must be right, for the way you work.
If you've been told this by a machine shop. I think they've been havering. Either to put you off. Or to charge you hundreds for the work.
No point in paying a large sum to get some work done. When a new tool is just about the same money
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I would expect most LBS will have a Hozan threader. Phone around and then drop in and measure.
If it needs to be opened up a bit I don't think a machine shop will be required - a drill press and bit should work.
If it needs to be opened up a bit I don't think a machine shop will be required - a drill press and bit should work.
07-20-16, 08:31 AM
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I just put the caliper on the shaft on mine, and I get 10.03 mm.
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Looks like SJS still carries Cyclo rolling heads. I have ordered other products from SJS and can recommend them.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/tools/12...-rolling-head/
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/tools/12...-rolling-head/
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I think there is confusion because the OP mentioned Cyclo heads in his post - but I get the impression he doesn't know the manufacturer of his device.
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I had said in my original post that I had sent questions to 2 ebay shops and to two bikeshop websites.
Ive looked on Hozans website too.
As I want to fit the cyclo head onto my unbranded tool
They just give the overall outside dimensions of the tools. Not the shaft diameter.
I wanted some one to tell me the shaft diameter. That has been done. That's all I wanted tio know.
If my question caused confusion. Well its easy to ask what I mean. Before doing anything else, or getting upset.
Ive looked on Hozans website too.
As I want to fit the cyclo head onto my unbranded tool
They just give the overall outside dimensions of the tools. Not the shaft diameter.
I wanted some one to tell me the shaft diameter. That has been done. That's all I wanted tio know.
If my question caused confusion. Well its easy to ask what I mean. Before doing anything else, or getting upset.
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09-25-16, 04:33 PM
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Is it a cutting die or a rolling die you have on your old threader? Any pictures perhaps?
In a couple of days I can tell you the dia of the Cyclo 14 rolling head, though.
In a couple of days I can tell you the dia of the Cyclo 14 rolling head, though.
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I've got hozan heads around her somewhere.
Why don't you post some photos of what you have, and what you need.
As far as machining, a lot would depend on how complicated it is. If you just have to ream out a hole, then it should be cheap (or you could do it in your garage). On the other hand, say you must build up a shaft then machine it back down, and a few other things... then, yes, cheaper to buy a new threading machine.
Why don't you post some photos of what you have, and what you need.
As far as machining, a lot would depend on how complicated it is. If you just have to ream out a hole, then it should be cheap (or you could do it in your garage). On the other hand, say you must build up a shaft then machine it back down, and a few other things... then, yes, cheaper to buy a new threading machine.
