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Old 01-06-17, 07:53 AM
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Wheel not spinning true from axle; missing piece



I was wondering why my wheels weren't spinning true. I looked closer and inspected it to find there's no end piece on my wheels... and I have no clue what piece or pieces I need to order.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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Go check the last place you used it. Maybe it's still there.
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Originally Posted by xenologer
Go check the last place you used it. Maybe it's still there.
I don't think the wheels came with it, honestly. I tried to take it off another bike but I guess it's a piece that just freespins. : )
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Originally Posted by Panza
I don't think the wheels came with it, honestly. I tried to take it off another bike but I guess it's a piece that just freespins. : )

Take it too a shop...you're missing bits. More than one. The kind of bits you need spanners to remove, they don't just fall off.

It looks like you don't even have an axle in the that wheel anymore. The dust cap is small potatoes to not having an axle at all anymore.
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Absolutely take that bike to a shop. There is definitely more than one thing missing and the hub will probably have to be completely rebuilt.
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What make/model of hub is that?

Looks almost like a thru-axle hub being used w/o the adapter to q/r.
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Originally Posted by dabac
What make/model of hub is that?

Looks almost like a thru-axle hub being used w/o the adapter to q/r.
Hubshell and rims say ZIPP....but does anyone make a rim-brake thru-axle hub? I mean anyone? The only real need for thru-axles is in precision alignment of disc rotors and calipers.

If it is a thru-axles hub then it is also missing the disc rotor mount.
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Originally Posted by dabac
What make/model of hub is that?

Looks almost like a thru-axle hub being used w/o the adapter to q/r.
I believe its 2013 Zipp V8 188 for 11 speed.



I think it's missing the thru-axle and the axle end cap ...?

is 12mmx142mm the standard size?
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Originally Posted by Panza
I believe its 2013 Zipp V8 188 for 11 speed.



I think it's missing the thru-axle and the axle end cap ...?

is 12mmx142mm the standard size?
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Zipps pictured hubset for that model and year have nothing in common with the OP picture. Nothing. They are not even close to the same hub. Which means that wheel was rebuilt with a newer hub, if in fact your model/year for the rim is correct.

Take it to a shop. I'm not meaning to be rude here but blunt. You're in over your head. Bigly.
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Definitely missing parts. Could look something like this

Although, given the fact that there is already a tube protruding from the bearing, I think it's more likely it is meant to have individual caps that slide over the tube.
They would look something like the piece on the left.
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Got it ... I called the customer support of the shop I bought them from and he said it was weird why the
1. Skewers were not included.
2. End cap was not attached to the hub.

We're probably going to have to work something out... it's not something they typically stock.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Hubshell and rims say ZIPP....but does anyone make a rim-brake thru-axle hub? I mean anyone?
That's why I said "almost".

It'd be an easy way of explaining what's missing and why it looks like that. Thru-axles are more frequently removed than end caps.

If there's a combined end cap/dust shield missing, what serves as the axle now should also be a few mm shorter that the dropout spacing.
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The only real need for thru-axles is in precision alignment of disc rotors and calipers.
Bikes used disc brakes for years before thru-axles became common or even invented. They managed alignment just fine with open dropouts.
The switch to thru-axles comes from two reasons, one the industry admits, and one that they don't:
- thru-axles provide a more rigid connection between the fork legs, allowing them to share the loads better, making the fork as a whole stiffer for a given weight.
- having the disc brake caliper on the rear of the fork means braking creates a downward force on the axle. If this force is big enough to cause the axle to move - ever so slightly - any axle assembly that relies on axial clamping can eventually unscrew. On q/r bikes, wheel ejection during braking has happened even on forks with fairly deep "lawyer lips", simply because the q/r has gotten slack enough to slip over the "lawyer lips".
With thru-axles and closed fork ends wheel ejection becomes a bit less probable.
But since the thru-axles aren't press-fit, the basic conditions remains the same.
Braking loads the axle down, riding loads it up. Eventually this built-in capacity for self-loosening will get someone else in trouble.
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There was a piece lodged in the wheel protector which came with the wheels. : )
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
Definitely missing parts. Could look something like this

Although, given the fact that there is already a tube protruding from the bearing, I think it's more likely it is meant to have individual caps that slide over the tube.
They would look something like the piece on the left.
It was exactly the black piece you listed.
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Why don't you put the QR skewer on correctly while you are at it.
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