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Mavic CXP14 problem with rim eyelets washers - one is missing

Old 01-25-17, 12:56 PM
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Mavic CXP14 problem with rim eyelets washers - one is missing

I'm in the middle of building the wheel when discover that the rim has one eyelet washer (or nipple, I believe this is another therm that is used) is missed. Search on e bay and other sites had zero results, local shops don't have it. I'm about to make it myself, but this would be the last resort.
If anybody has any CXP 14 or CXP 30 nipples available please let me know. They are identical.
I do not know if CXP 12 washers have the same dimensions, help?
In fact any suggestions are more than welcome.
PS. The first picture from the WTB: Inserts for Mavic CXP14 Rims Clincher - The Paceline Forum shows how it looks.
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I hate to bring bad news, but you might be SOL on this.

The "nose" of these inserts match the shape of the rim, so the key will be whether the profile is the same (as are the 14's and 30's).

Here's a link to a bunch of photos showing the various cross sections, which I hope helps you. Once you know exactly which you need, then it's a question of finding someone who might salvage one from a crashed rim.

Otherwise, you might take a stainless steel washer, bend it to a decent fit in the rim, fill the valley with that "plastic aluminum" stuff to make a decent seat for the nipple, redrill it, and adjust spoke length to compensate.
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^Thanks for the link FBinNY.
I found fairly cheapo CXP12 online, but I don't know if its washers would fit CXP14. Not much info online about these funny rims.
The reason why I'm building it is that I've had two different Mavic wheels on my Ciocc TT (one is 650c CXP14) and decided to make it more period accurate. Now i kinda regret it...
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Give it a shot looking for the part. But don't get frustrated over a single part. It'll be easy enough to fabricate one if you put on your creative cap. All sorts of materials can be used, and be both easy to work with and strong enough. I'd be tempted to use linen and resin or epoxy make a durable piece (which no one will ever see), force it home, then drill it after it cured.

If you doubt your skill or the strength of the finished part, use it for the left side since there's lower tension there.
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small brass grommets can function as the ferrules, with a little ingenuity
you can even fold them over , as if they were done in the factory..
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Bob,

With respect, you need to know the particulars before you post.

These rims have a sharp internal angle at the bottom, unlike the more common arrangement where it's filled in to make a flattish seat for nipples. So it calls for a shaped insert of some kind to so the nipple head doesn't jam against the sides of the "valley" and bulge them outward (or crack them).

Not saying something can't be fabricated, but a washer, even a folded washer isn't going to cut the mustard.
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Originally Posted by tsenyuta View Post
^ ...I found fairly cheapo CXP12 online, but I don't know if its washers would fit CXP14. ...
The CXP12 is more akin to the CXP10 (standard eyelets or none) while the CXP14 was much the same as the CXP30, only a non machined brake track and non SUP, IIRC...corrections welcomed of course. The CXP33 had a somewhat similar ferral, but a different height, shorter, I think.

May just need to find a CXP14 or CXP30. Good luck.

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Thanks Brad.
I found one contact in Colorado called Vecchio's from previous discussions on this topic and waiting for the results, they might be the last bike shop in NA who still has is...
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Thanks Brad.
I found one contact in Colorado called Vecchio's from previous discussions on this topic and waiting for the results, they might be the last bike shop in NA who still has is...
Good luck.

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Success! Jim from Vecchio's has mailed me 4 original CXP14 eyelets and they have arrived.
Thank you, Jim!
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Success! Jim from Vecchio's has mailed me 4 original CXP14 eyelets and they have arrived.
Thank you, Jim!
Outstanding and thanks for the feedback.

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