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Finding the right seatpost
I have a Trek 720 that I'm trying to make some seat adjustments on. The current saddle is too high in the front for comfort with the stock seatpost. I believed the diameter of the seatpost to be 27.2mm and ordered one, but that size is too big. I really believe that I need an adjustable seatpost that I can change the angle of the seat with. Does anyone know of an adjustable seatpost that would fit this bike.
My guess is that looking at how large the 27.2mm post seems to be, that it would take at least 1mm less in OD than the 27.2mm post. Much thanks |
.... all seatposts let you adjust the saddle angle
you loosen the bolt underneath that holds the clamps around the saddle rails angle those clamp plates up or down retighten the bolt and given that it's a Trek 27.2 is almost Certainly the correct size maybe your seattube is slightly warped making it hard to insert |
Originally Posted by xenologer
(Post 19548003)
.... all seatposts let you adjust the saddle angle
you loosen the bolt underneath that holds the clamps around the saddle rails angle those clamp plates up or down retighten the bolt and given that it's a Trek 27.2 is almost Certainly the correct size maybe your seattube is slightly warped making it hard to insert |
One accurate measurement is worth 1,000 assumptions.
The first thing that you should to is to look at the bottom of your stock seatpost to see if the diameter is stamped there. It usually is. If it isn't, get a caliper or micrometer and measure your seatpost accurately. Seatpost diameters come in 0.2mm increment and even a tiny bit off makes a huge difference. |
I'm certain the stock seatpost on your Trek is adjustable for saddle angle and fore-and-aft location. Even the seatposts that come on Big-Box store bikes are adjustable and those on bike shop quality bikes always are. Ask a knowledgable friend or even go to a bike shop to be shown how.
I have had Treks from the early '80's through the late '90's and the all had adjustable seatposts. There were no other kind. |
Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
(Post 19548056)
One accurate measurement is worth 1,000 assumptions.
The first thing that you should to is to look at the bottom of your stock seatpost to see if the diameter is stamped there. It usually is. If it isn't, get a caliper or micrometer and measure your seatpost accurately. Seatpost diameters come in 0.2mm increment and even a tiny bit off makes a huge difference. |
Originally Posted by dsbrantjr
(Post 19548095)
+1 Trying to clamp a too-small post can distort your seat tube.....
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Picture of the top of the seatpost where the seat is attached would be helpful.
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All Trek 720s were reamed to accept a 27.2mm post. If yours does seem to allow that size, it's likely because the top of the seat tube is no longer round, perhaps from a previous owner using an undersize post. Measure the diameter carefully at two locations about 90° apart. You'll likely find that they are different and that is the source of your problem.
Edit: the above information applies to 1980s Waterloo-built lugged Reynolds 531 Trek 720s, not Asian built TIG welded 720s from the 1990s. Those may well use a different size, but that was long after I left Trek, so I can't tell you want it might be. Why did Trek recycle old model numbers into entirely different new models? It's not as if we're going to run out of numbers, after all.
Originally Posted by rubiconazoid
(Post 19548049)
It is a 1990's era bike and I'm almost certain it's not warped. I gotta believe it's gonna take a smaller size. Maybe I could shim the clamps or something.
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Mid '90s Trek Multi-Track 720's have 26.6mm seat post diameters per the 1994 Trek Retail Technical Manual and my own Multi-Track 720.
Personally I like these two seat posts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001CJV7AK https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AOZ1L4 |
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 19548409)
All Trek 720s were reamed to accept a 27.2mm post. If yours does seem to allow that size, it's likely because the top of the seat tube is no longer round, perhaps from a previous owner using an undersize post. Measure the diameter carefully at two locations about 90° apart. You'll likely find that they are different and that is the source of your problem.
Edit: the above information applies to 1980s Waterloo-built lugged Reynolds 531 Trek 720s, not Asian built TIG welded 720s from the 1990s. Those may well use a different size, but that was long after I left Trek, so I can't tell you want it might be. Why did Trek recycle old model numbers into entirely different new models? It's not as if we're going to run out of numbers, after all. |
Originally Posted by rubiconazoid
(Post 19548470)
I bought it new and the seatpost it has is the original and has never been taken out of the frame until I tried to put the 27.2mm seatpost in for a replacement. It's just 2 big. I'll get a pic and try to post it up.
Originally Posted by nfmisso
(Post 19548420)
Mid '90s Trek Multi-Track 720's have 26.6mm seat post diameters per the 1994 Trek Retail Technical Manual and my own Multi-Track 720.
Personally I like these two seat posts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001CJV7AK https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AOZ1L4 |
Originally Posted by SquidPuppet
(Post 19548529)
When did you buy it? It looks like the answer to your question is in the post right above yours.
Thanks! |
Originally Posted by rubiconazoid
(Post 19548573)
Yes, the first link looks exactly like the seat post that came originally on the bike. With that particularly seatpost, how can I adjust the angle of the seat? From the looks of the clamp in the picture and the looks of the one on my bike, I'm just not figuring out how I can raise the rear of the seat.
Thanks! |
Originally Posted by rubiconazoid
(Post 19548573)
Yes, the first link looks exactly like the seat post that came originally on the bike. With that particularly seatpost, how can I adjust the angle of the seat? From the looks of the clamp in the picture and the looks of the one on my bike, I'm just not figuring out how I can raise the rear of the seat.
Thanks! |
Originally Posted by rubiconazoid
(Post 19548470)
I bought it new and the seatpost it has is the original and has never been taken out of the frame until I tried to put the 27.2mm seatpost in for a replacement. It's just 2 big. I'll get a pic and try to post it up.
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Originally Posted by rubiconazoid
(Post 19548573)
Yes, the first link looks exactly like the seat post that came originally on the bike. With that particularly seatpost, how can I adjust the angle of the seat? From the looks of the clamp in the picture and the looks of the one on my bike, I'm just not figuring out how I can raise the rear of the seat.
Thanks! http://www.bikepro.com/products/seat...xtr_side_l.jpg |
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 19548869)
Is the size marked on the original post?
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Originally Posted by HillRider
(Post 19549285)
size doesn't matter.
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Thanks for all the replies. I finally had a little time to break it apart and look closely at it and figured it out. Exactly as someone said, the bottow piece that is loose is somewhat curved and the base of the seatpost has a series of grooves in it which allow the adjustment of the seat angle. I was able to make a change by loosening the one allen bolt and moving it slightly back and forth.
I'm a little embarrassed I didn't look closer to begin with, but hey, it's not the first time I've proved how dumb I can be and I'm positive it won't be the last. Please forgive and thanks for the help! |
Originally Posted by rubiconazoid
(Post 19554915)
Thanks for all the replies. I finally had a little time to break it apart and look closely at it and figured it out. Exactly as someone said, the bottow piece that is loose is somewhat curved and the base of the seatpost has a series of grooves in it which allow the adjustment of the seat angle. I was able to make a change by loosening the one allen bolt and moving it slightly back and forth.
I'm a little embarrassed I didn't look closer to begin with, but hey, it's not the first time I've proved how dumb I can be and I'm positive it won't be the last. Please forgive and thanks for the help! |
This thread is a perfect example of people telling others a spec that is an inaccurate assumption. I didn't know Trek used 26.6 posts on those bikes.
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Originally Posted by mtnbke
(Post 19555901)
This thread is a perfect example of people telling others a spec that is an inaccurate assumption. I didn't know Trek used 26.6 posts on those bikes.
But that wasn't the problem, adjusting the saddle clamp was. |
Originally Posted by mtnbke
(Post 19555901)
This thread is a perfect example of people telling others a spec that is an inaccurate assumption. I didn't know Trek used 26.6 posts on those bikes.
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Originally Posted by xenologer
(Post 19548003)
.... all seatposts let you adjust the saddle angle
you loosen the bolt underneath that holds the clamps around the saddle rails angle those clamp plates up or down retighten the bolt and given that it's a Trek 27.2 is almost Certainly the correct size maybe your seattube is slightly warped making it hard to insert People shouldn't just assume they know. Reminds me of Old Potatoe offering his expert opinion on what taper Mavic bottom brackets were. Then when challenged becoming adamant that he knew. He just thought he knew and he was wrong. |
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