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Old 06-04-17, 05:17 PM
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Difference between leaning and steering to one side?

I have read a ton of threads on a frame not tracking straight when riding hands free but I am not sure of this question. Would there be different causes for the bike leaning to one side as opposed to steering off to one side when hands free? Or are the causes pretty much the same? The entire bike will lean slightly to the right but not steer to the right as it might with a terribly bent fork.

I know I need to take it to a shop with alignment tools, etc etc. Just thought I might ask this simple, or not so simple question. I did try a different front wheel on the bike with the same leaning result.
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No difference. The causes would be the same.

As noted previously:
Check that the wheels are fully seated in the dropouts.
Check that the brake cable housings are not pushing the front wheel away from straight ahead.
Check that the headset turns smoothly, without friction.
Check that the rims are centered on the axle's locknuts.
Check that the fork is straight.
Check that the frame is straight.
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I have read a ton of threads on a frame not tracking straight when riding hands free but I am not sure of this question. Would there be different causes for the bike leaning to one side as opposed to steering off to one side when hands free? Or are the causes pretty much the same? The entire bike will lean slightly to the right but not steer to the right as it might with a terribly bent fork.

I know I need to take it to a shop with alignment tools, etc etc. Just thought I might ask this simple, or not so simple question. I did try a different front wheel on the bike with the same leaning result.
Unless the bike was in an accident or you load up panniers up on one side I don't see how the bike leans to one side. Are you sure you are not subconsciously leaning?

we need to a see a video of you riding and it leaning on its own.
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[QUOTE=HerrKaLeun;19631547 Are you sure you are not subconsciously leaning? [/QUOTE]

It's not me since I had someone else ride it and I followed him on another bike. It leans on him as well. I totally forgot to mention that it has a dent in the head tube but the part of the head tube with the cups looks fine. There are no other dents or rippling that indicate any other tubes are damaged.

The bike rides great if you don't ride no hands. Maybe it has something to do with the way the head set turns.
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You could use long straight edges or levels and some measuring tools to see if it is bent side-ways. but looks like bike was in accident, so no way to fix that with an alignment.
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It's not me since I had someone else ride it and I followed him on another bike. It leans on him as well. I totally forgot to mention that it has a dent in the head tube but the part of the head tube with the cups looks fine. There are no other dents or rippling that indicate any other tubes are damaged.

The bike rides great if you don't ride no hands. Maybe it has something to do with the way the head set turns.
It sounds like something might have been dropped on it while the bike was on its side. If so, I would check to see if the rear triangle is aligned properly. I had a bike that rode OK, but was wonky if I tried riding no-hands. It turned out it had been damaged in shipping and the rear triangle was bent 1/2" to one side.

Checking this is not tough. All it requires is string and a ruler:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-s....html#symmetry
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It sounds like something might have been dropped on it while the bike was on its side. If so, I would check to see if the rear triangle is aligned properly. I had a bike that rode OK, but was wonky if I tried riding no-hands. It turned out it had been damaged in shipping and the rear triangle was bent 1/2" to one side.

Checking this is not tough. All it requires is string and a ruler:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-s....html#symmetry
Thanks. I will check it. Not sure if I can tweak it back into shape if it is out but I will give it a go. I think having a shop
do all the work would cost more than the whole bike is worth so DIY...
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