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Did I miss something? When did chains stop getting factory shipped coated in grease?

Old 06-18-17, 06:43 PM
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Did I miss something? When did chains stop getting factory shipped coated in grease?

Threw an HG-701 Shimano chain on my Bigfoot rig...critter came out of the sealed bag with only a coating of lightweight oil on it, rather than the thicker grease goo I've been used to. Have I just been out to lunch or buying the wrong/right chains forever?
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Old 06-18-17, 06:52 PM
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It makes it easier to strip everything off before dipping it in molten paraffin.
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Bare steel chains are shipped with rust inhibitor. Sometimes oil or grease is used as a rust inhibitor. My guess is that Shimano has is using the cheapest thing that works.

Chains coated with nickel, ti nitride and other such coatings don't rust and so don't need rust inhibitor.


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Old 06-19-17, 08:06 AM
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Was it Shimano packaged or just in a baggie? A lot of the mail order places are selling OEM or even cut to length bulk chain. I can see them not being greased to cut down on the mess.
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Originally Posted by Slash5 View Post
Was it Shimano packaged or just in a baggie? A lot of the mail order places are selling OEM or even cut to length bulk chain. I can see them not being greased to cut down on the mess.

Retail shimano packaging sealed like it should be.
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I've had similar issues with Shimano chains the last few years.


The good news is that SRAM still uses that thick Gleitmo that you can hardly get off, and it lubricates as long as it's on the chain!
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I hate that thick stuff! It's like an uber dirt magnet, although admittedly, the chain runs perfectly well even with the black chain appearance.

I'm spoiled though - I've posted more than a few times in this forum since I went to a dip-waxed paraffin chain a few months ago, and I can't stop raving about how awesomely clean and smooth it is, plus, it's super easy to setup.

Fortunately, I've found that the melted paraffin is a great solvent similar to kerosene, so I don't even have to remove the coating before I dip-wax the chain into a slow-cooker containing my melted paraffin.
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Originally Posted by hhnngg1 View Post
I hate that thick stuff! It's like an uber dirt magnet, although admittedly, the chain runs perfectly well even with the black chain appearance.

I'm spoiled though - I've posted more than a few times in this forum since I went to a dip-waxed paraffin chain a few months ago, and I can't stop raving about how awesomely clean and smooth it is, plus, it's super easy to setup.

Fortunately, I've found that the melted paraffin is a great solvent similar to kerosene, so I don't even have to remove the coating before I dip-wax the chain into a slow-cooker containing my melted paraffin.

When you need to apply more wax to your chain, do you do anything to clean it before popping it in the wax pot again?


Also, after you have had it in the wax pot, do you then hang it up off a nail or something, so that the melted wax can run off it, before you put it back on your bike?
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sram still uses sticky grease. shimano uses large quantities of light to mid weight oil, dripping wet usually
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders View Post
When you need to apply more wax to your chain, do you do anything to clean it before popping it in the wax pot again?


Also, after you have had it in the wax pot, do you then hang it up off a nail or something, so that the melted wax can run off it, before you put it back on your bike?
I soak it in solvent to get it clean so as to not contaminate my wax dip. I use a paraffin/teflon/moly mix and the moly is a black powder so it would be difficult to see when the dip is getting dirty.

I preheat the chain before dunking to promote the wax getting well into the rollers and I do hang and wipe the chain after dipping.
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Originally Posted by reptilezs View Post
sram still uses sticky grease. shimano uses large quantities of light to mid weight oil, dripping wet usually
Campag and KMC do as well...which is why I was surprised at the Shimano chain.
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It makes it easier to strip everything off before dipping it in molten paraffin.
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders View Post
When you need to apply more wax to your chain, do you do anything to clean it before popping it in the wax pot again?


Also, after you have had it in the wax pot, do you then hang it up off a nail or something, so that the melted wax can run off it, before you put it back on your bike?
I'm having perfectly good results with my initial runs with paraffin doing it the easy way, so all I do is take my currently used-waxed chain (or new chain) and just dump it into a slow cooker of melted paraffin, stir, and then let sit for 5-10 mins. I pull it out, quickly wipe the excess off with a paper towel, and then I just chuck mine into a cardboard box to cool. (The paraffin drips are annoying to clean up so the box works well to catch them.)

You're SUPPOSED to preclean your chain with a separate solvent as per all the other youtube videos I've seen about it, but I haven't reused my paraffin to the point that I'm worried about it being so contamainated that it loses efficacy. I'd do that however if I were using a blackened regular-lube used chain as a starter.

I haven't even needed to add more paraffin to the pot - I've melted the current batch 4x, with nary a drop in the wax amount.
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