Help with 26x1 3/8
Hey there
So ive got these 26 1 3/8 wheels and tires to match but the tires are super bulky. The tires are super old so I was wondering if newer tires of the same measurements would be any less bulky/closer to road than cruiser. May be a silly question and i know i can always try to find a different 26 inch wheel set (not sure off the top of my head what other measurements are) but is there anything i can do? Note: im asking because the point of getting 26's was to reduce height from what was with 27's but im now noticing not much of a difference due to the tire being so big (i think). Thanks! |
You seem to be confusing wheel/tire size with frame size. Any bike with 26" 27" 28" or 29" tires could be too big for you if the frame size doesn't fit you. 26 x 1 3/8" tires were common on old English 3 speed bikes. The better ones were sold with smaller frames for shorter riders.
How about providing information about your bike? You cannot make a bike that is too big for you fit better by using smaller wheels. The frame will still be too big and you will have bigger problems than you you started with |
Originally Posted by alcjphil
(Post 19684282)
You seem to be confusing wheel/tire size with frame size. Any bike with 26" 27" 28" or 29" tires could be too big for you if the frame size doesn't fit you. 26 x 1 3/8" tires were common on old English 3 speed bikes. The better ones were sold with smaller frames for shorter riders.
How about providing information about your bike? You cannot make a bike that is too big for you fit better by using smaller wheels. The frame will still be too big and you will have bigger problems than you you started with That said, youre right about confusing tire with wheel size. The tire is 26 1 3/8 but the wheel, i believe, is just a standard 26 inch wheel. If such is true, can i just put on 26 1 1/8 tires? |
The key is the small letter designation on the tire, or depending on the age, the metric (ERTRO) size.
"Standard" British 3-speed bikes used 26x1-3/8" tires properly designated EA-3, or 37-590. These designations are important because the 26x1-3/8 are nominal tire sizes, but there are different versions which fit different rims. The metric designation gives the nominal tire width and true rim seat diameter, so any 590 tire will fit any 590- rim, eliminating the confusion. Both EA-3 and 590 point to the right rim, so once you confirm that, you can shop tires. But be aware that this sie is currently out of favor, so tire selection will be eliminated. However if you can fine a 1-1/8" wide tire marked 28-590 or at least EA-3, you can be sure it'll fit. |
Originally Posted by shutuppostman
(Post 19684304)
TThe tire is 26 1 3/8 but the wheel, i believe, is just a standard 26 inch wheel. If such is true, can i just put on 26 1 1/8 tires?
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Read this!!
https://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html |
Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
(Post 19684343)
Read this!!
https://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html |
Originally Posted by alcjphil
(Post 19684326)
There are at least 5 different 26" wheel sizes. 26 x 1 3/8 is one of the larger ones. There is no such thing as a " standard 26 inch wheel" 26 x 1 3/8 and 26 x 1 1/4 use different size wheels with 26 x 1 1/4 being larger
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Originally Posted by shutuppostman
(Post 19684359)
So is this to say 26 1 1/8 tire wouldnt fit my 26 1 3/8 wheel?
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Originally Posted by shutuppostman
(Post 19684359)
So is this to say 26 1 1/8 tire wouldnt fit my 26 1 3/8 wheel?
there are 2 different 26X 1-3/8" sizes to add to the confusion. One has a BSD of 597, while the more common is 590mm. |
Originally Posted by shutuppostman
(Post 19684359)
So is this to say 26 1 1/8 tire wouldnt fit my 26 1 3/8 wheel?
To give you a short, direct answer: No, a 26" x 1 1/8" tire won't fit your rim. As counter-intuitive as it may be, not all 26" tires are made for the same diameter rim. Not even all 26" x 1 3/8" tires fit the same rims because there were at least two completely different 26" x 1 3/8" standards. FBinNY mentioned EA3 (590 mm) rims above. My daughter's Fuji road bike came with 26" x 1 3/8" tires, but they're S-6 (597 mm) -- the other 1 3/8" standard. The link to Sheldon Brown's site that Bill Kapaun posted above explains it all pretty well.
Originally Posted by shutuppostman
(Post 19684359)
The tire is 26 1 3/8 but the wheel, i believe, is just a standard 26 inch wheel.
Common 26" mountain bike rims from the past few decades are 559 mm. But that's not what you have if 1 3/8" tires fit the rim. All of the recent 26" tires have widths listed in decimal format like 1.75" or 2.1" -- not fractional. |
Bill if you are into Schwinns from pre war there are actually 3 differ 26 x 1 3/8 sizes. The prewars used a 599 rim and were listed as 26x1.325s or 26 x 1 3/8 depending who made the tire. I have a couple of Schwinn Worlds that used these tires Roger
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Originally Posted by shutuppostman
(Post 19684359)
So is this to say 26 1 1/8 tire wouldnt fit my 26 1 3/8 wheel?
So, look for the ETRTO size designation on both your old tire and your new tire and ensure that the second number, the bead set diameter, matches on both. If it does, the new tire will fit on your wheel. If it doesn't, it won't fit. |
Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
(Post 19684380)
Read the link I posted and you won't have to keep asking dumb questions.
there are 2 different 26X 1-3/8" sizes to add to the confusion. One has a BSD of 597, while the more common is 590mm. |
Originally Posted by shutuppostman
(Post 19685131)
That was entirely unecessarily rude.
Rude is to keep asking questions that have been answered because you refuse to pay attention. |
Restore the bike you had to its original configuration, sell it, buy one to fit. A smaller 26 x 1 3/8 tire will not lower the bike significantly, and a true 26" will not work with your brakes.
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Just to add further confusion :) In Europe, Schwalbe offers a 28-590 which can be ordered from some of the European on-line stores, for some reason Schwalbe USA denies it's existence.... And there are 23-590 and 25-590 wheel chair tires from Kenda and Schwalbe sold in the USA. The 25-590 tires fit Sun CR18 rims, as do the Europe only 28-590 tires from Schwalbe.
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
(Post 19685145)
Not as long as you keep refusing to spend 2 minutes reading the link I posted that would explain things.
Rude is to keep asking questions that have been answered because you refuse to pay attention. |
Originally Posted by rhenning
(Post 19684823)
Bill if you are into Schwinns from pre war there are actually 3 differ 26 x 1 3/8 sizes. The prewars used a 599 rim and were listed as 26x1.325s or 26 x 1 3/8 depending who made the tire. I have a couple of Schwinn Worlds that used these tires Roger
I know the 599 "existed", but what's the odds? One can only hope the OP has that size. |
Originally Posted by shutuppostman
(Post 19685362)
Me asking a question, regardless of your answer, is not rude. You calling my question dumb (and in turn implying Im dumb) is rude. This website is called bikeforums, a website where people can ask questions, post discussions and more. Im sorry that I didnt give you the intellectual validation you crave by throwing myself at your feet in graciousness for sending me a link that doesnt *directly* answer my question but unless *you* want to answer this question directly on *my* terms rather than your arrogant assumption that I should spend 20 minutes reading something that could be answered with a simple yes or no, then please get off my thread. Youre flexing on a stranger who clearly doesnt understanding bicycle mechanics as well you do so neither of us stand to gain anything here if being a dick is your preferred course of action.
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Originally Posted by shutuppostman
(Post 19685362)
Me asking a question, regardless of your answer, is not rude. You calling my question dumb (and in turn implying Im dumb) is rude. This website is called bikeforums, a website where people can ask questions, post discussions and more. Im sorry that I didnt give you the intellectual validation you crave by throwing myself at your feet in graciousness for sending me a link that doesnt *directly* answer my question but unless *you* want to answer this question directly on *my* terms rather than your arrogant assumption that I should spend 20 minutes reading something that could be answered with a simple yes or no, then please get off my thread. Youre flexing on a stranger who clearly doesnt understanding bicycle mechanics as well you do so neither of us stand to gain anything here if being a dick is your preferred course of action.
You cannot fit a tire on a rim that is not the proper size. That is not an opinion - it is a fact. So go back and re-read the post that gave you the link, and then read it. |
Putting road tyres on my MTB 26”
those are my rim specs.
Rim Size: 26" * Spoke holes: 28 * Height: 17.8 mm * Internal Width: 17.5 mm *External Width: 22.2 mm Is it possible for me to have tyre sizes like 26 - 1 3/8 or 26 - 1 5/8 on this rim? If not, what is the rim I should buy? I’d like an elaborated answer. I find this dilemma quite confusing. Please ❤️ |
Originally Posted by ryanvonhagan
(Post 22579506)
those are my rim specs.
Rim Size: 26" * Spoke holes: 28 * Height: 17.8 mm * Internal Width: 17.5 mm *External Width: 22.2 mm Is it possible for me to have tyre sizes like 26 - 1 3/8 or 26 - 1 5/8 on this rim? If not, what is the rim I should buy? I’d like an elaborated answer. I find this dilemma quite confusing. Please ❤️ First determine what 26" ISO size you have. There are a number on them and they are all different. Going by ISO size is the only real way to know. https://www.sheldonbrown.com/26.html |
Originally Posted by ryanvonhagan
(Post 22579506)
those are my rim specs.
Rim Size: 26" * Spoke holes: 28 * Height: 17.8 mm * Internal Width: 17.5 mm *External Width: 22.2 mm Is it possible for me to have tyre sizes like 26 - 1 3/8 or 26 - 1 5/8 on this rim? If not, what is the rim I should buy? I’d like an elaborated answer. I find this dilemma quite confusing. Please ❤️ This post should have been in a new thread. Zombie Thread Alert! |
Originally Posted by ryanvonhagan
(Post 22579506)
those are my rim specs.
Rim Size: 26" Is it possible for me to have tyre sizes like 26 - 1 3/8 or 26 - 1 5/8 on this rim? If not, what is the rim I should buy? I’d like an elaborated answer. I find this dilemma quite confusing. Please ❤️
Originally Posted by dedhed
(Post 22579646)
First determine what 26" ISO size you have. There are a number on them and they are all different. Going by ISO size is the only real way to know.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/26.html |
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