Breaking spokes, upgrade wheels?
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Breaking spokes, upgrade wheels?
First year of riding for me. I bought a new cannondale caad optimo Claris may 27th and have had 4 spokes break, 3 in the last 3 weeks after a total of about 950 miles. Each time I have brought it to a shop to have it trued and spoke replaced. After talking with the cannondale shop they gave me the option of upgrading my wheel. I would be going from a maddux RS to a Mavic Aksium for $40....any input on if it is worth it to upgrade?
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$40 for a Mavic aksium, huh?... do it.
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At this point and with less then 90 days on these wheels, the shop should be giving you a new wheel.
I'm not sure I'd bother with the Mavic's, as the Axsium is near the low end of the wheel products from Mavic. I just returned some Mavic Ksyrium SE's to Performance after about 300 miles when a rear non-drive line spoke completely loosened. I knew at that point that with my weight (230) there was no possibility these wheels were going the distance.
I used the money for a Mavic Open Pro with 32 spokes, double butted DT on an Ultegra hub. I can ride that kind of wheel for many years.
Bottom line on a lot of wheels that come as stock on bikes, is that they just suck and are always the weak point, as well as spot where a manufacturer is skimping and saving money.
I'm not sure I'd bother with the Mavic's, as the Axsium is near the low end of the wheel products from Mavic. I just returned some Mavic Ksyrium SE's to Performance after about 300 miles when a rear non-drive line spoke completely loosened. I knew at that point that with my weight (230) there was no possibility these wheels were going the distance.
I used the money for a Mavic Open Pro with 32 spokes, double butted DT on an Ultegra hub. I can ride that kind of wheel for many years.
Bottom line on a lot of wheels that come as stock on bikes, is that they just suck and are always the weak point, as well as spot where a manufacturer is skimping and saving money.
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Rear wheel? Which side? How many spokes? You weigh how much?
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Most wheels don't inherently suck but the quality of the build does. I don't weigh all that much (for an American!) and I'm generally light on my equipment yet I've had wheel issues, including a spoke completely loosening on a 32 hole Open Pro rim with Ultegra hub wheel. Once I learned to build wheels, during which period I clearly learned more about wheels than the mechanic at my LBS, my wheel troubles ended (barring things like deep pothole hits in the rain at night breaking hubs). And I don't run overbuilt wheels either. My commuter wheelset weighs under 1500 grams and that's with a disc front hub.
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I'm just a bit heavier than you and won't go below 32.
I could probably get by on 28 since my roughest bumps are a couple RR tracks that I can take slow and unweight the bike. However, those wheels would have to be built by me, so I KNOW the tensions are what I want and EVEN.
Your wheels could probably be respoked with good, Double Butted spokes, by a reasonably competent builder and last a long time.
24 spokes? Nota so mucha
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OK, went and looked up the bike and wheel.
The OP is riding on what looks like C-Dale house brand RS wheels. The rear is already a 32.
I'm the thinking that it's just a typical crappy machine built wheel, likely no stressing after build. That's pretty common on new bikes and is why I've been known to just sell the wheels that come on a bike and have a better wheel set custom built.
32 spokes should be enough for the OP, but I suspect that even if C-Dale warranties and replaces the wheel it's still going to be a RS wheel from a machine. That gets him nowhere and even with a Mavic WITH an extended warranty, he'll still be braking spokes.
At that point, a 32 or 36 spokes wheel built by a reputable builder, double butted DT or Wheelsmith, on a 105 hub, would be a suggestion. Note that only a rear wheel is needed, you likely will be OK with the existing front. Question is do you trust your LBS to build a good custom wheel ?. If not, I have great luck with the wheels from Colorado Cyclist. It'll probably run you $180 or so.
The OP is riding on what looks like C-Dale house brand RS wheels. The rear is already a 32.
I'm the thinking that it's just a typical crappy machine built wheel, likely no stressing after build. That's pretty common on new bikes and is why I've been known to just sell the wheels that come on a bike and have a better wheel set custom built.
32 spokes should be enough for the OP, but I suspect that even if C-Dale warranties and replaces the wheel it's still going to be a RS wheel from a machine. That gets him nowhere and even with a Mavic WITH an extended warranty, he'll still be braking spokes.
At that point, a 32 or 36 spokes wheel built by a reputable builder, double butted DT or Wheelsmith, on a 105 hub, would be a suggestion. Note that only a rear wheel is needed, you likely will be OK with the existing front. Question is do you trust your LBS to build a good custom wheel ?. If not, I have great luck with the wheels from Colorado Cyclist. It'll probably run you $180 or so.
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The spokes are braking because the wheel was poorly built, not because of poor materials. The shop should know this and make good. If they have a competent builder on staff, the solution is simple. Loosen all the spokes, retension adequately, evenly, true, and stress relieve.
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they dont stay true by themselves, Low spoke count are ill advised, but trendy, now.
you let the spokes loosen up tension,balance-truing, and metal fatigue caused them to break..
have you not been back for touch up truing recently?
At 230# I would suggest a 36 spoke wheel laced 3 cross, but still drop by the sellers bike shop
and have the truing & tension balance checked regularly.
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you let the spokes loosen up tension,balance-truing, and metal fatigue caused them to break..
have you not been back for touch up truing recently?
At 230# I would suggest a 36 spoke wheel laced 3 cross, but still drop by the sellers bike shop
and have the truing & tension balance checked regularly.
...
Last edited by fietsbob; 08-06-17 at 09:15 AM.
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