Willie_S

Can i use a 10 speed SRAM chain on a 10 speed Campag Veloce cassette?

jimc101

Yes, as long as the speed matches, any brand of chain will work with any brand of groupset

Willie_S

Can i use a 10 speed SRAM chain on a 10 speed Campag Veloce cassette?

Willie_S

Thanks for the speedy reply.
Am I right in saying that you cannot regularly take the 10 speed narrow Campag chain off and on for cleaning (no problems back in the 1980's for any chain)
whereas you can with the SRAM?

cb400bill

Merged duplicate threads

ptempel

You can take it off with a master link. Not sure if Campagnolo chain comes with one. I've been buying KMC chains and they do have the link. You also don't need to take the chain off much if you use a chain cleaning tool or just wipe the chain after every ride

gfk_velo

No master link in Campagnolo. A correctly riveted link will be stronger than any master link.

In terms of what chain will work with what transmission - 10s is more forgiving than 11s in this respect - and less so than 9s ... however, front shift with the SRAM (or any other chain that Campagnolo 10s) will not be great if you are running a Campag chainset as well - third party chainset as well, could be better, could be worse ... these things are all made to work as a system so changing an element nearly always results in a drop in performance.

Whether that matters to you is another question of course. A slightly slower, noisier or less predictable front shift, or the other potential damage to other parts of the gearing system might not be of concern, or the concern might be outweighed by cost considerations, or, perhaps as in this case, ease of removal of the chain for cleaning (although personally, I'd never let my chain get into state where it needed to be removed to clean it properly).

As the shift is degraded it also leads to greater wear and tear on the LH lever, which most users end up pushing over longer and harder - premature failure can be the result.

I look after Campag Service and Warranty in the UK, so you might say I have a vested interest - however, I also originated and teach on a nationally recognised general cycle mechanic's accreditation & so work on and with all brands of componentry, all the time - our advice is to follow the manufacturer's specification, so Campag with Campag, Shimano with Shimano, SRAM with SRAM.

A lot of things have changed since the 1980s when lots of practices were "OK" and had no downside and indeed it almost "had" to be that way at the time. Things change, though and consumer expectations of equipment and it's function are now very different and a lot more consideration has to be given to the "system". There is a lot of commercial interest in there, it's true & I'd be daft to deny it - however, there is also a lot of practicality.

A lot of things "will work" or can be "made to work" but it rather depends on the individual users' interpretation of "work" and the mid- to long-term knock-on effects.

HillRider

As he noted below, gfk-velo does have a vested interest in Campy so he is going to tell you Campy cranksets should be used with Campy chains.

However, I used a Campy 10-speed Chorus crank and front derailleur with both Wipperman and Shimano 10-speed chains for over 25,000 miles and front shifting was excellent. Campy chains are needlessly complicated and have required expensive, special chain tools for years. Wipperman, KMC and Shimano all have very functional master links or easy to install joining pins and work just as well.

fietsbob

Quick link + Park pliers for the purpose, allow KMC , Whipperman and other chains to be opened soaked clean then re installed..
the width of the link matches the "speeds count" of cassette cogs and chain.



Rohloff used to be the source of chains marketed by Campagnolo..

SkyDog75

Campagnolo chains don't come with a quick link, but you can use one instead of Campy's special joining pin. KMC sells their Missing Link 10CR specifically for use with Campagnolo 10-speed chains.

HillRider

Rohloff never made 10 or 11-speed chains and discontinued their 8 and 9-speed chains at the end of 2010 so the chances of finding a Rohloff chain, Campy or otherwise, is slim to none.

Spaghetti Legs 

That's what I've been doing for years.