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Old 08-31-17, 07:54 AM
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Can I use FinishLine cross country chain lub for freewheel lubrication?


In this video, after flushing the freewheel, he used phil wood tenacious oil through the bearing slot as lub, someone call it thick oil, but I do not have this, can I use my chain lub which is in similar thickness? will this lub eludes out when it spins please? if chain lub does not work, can I use motor oil lub instead? which tyre of moter lub is better,
I have still some bearing grease, but in order to regrease the bearing,I must open the freewheel completely,first I must buy another key to open the top lock, and then maybe there is some risk that I am not able to reassemble it.


what is your suggestion then?
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Do not disassemble the freewheel and do not use grease. I'd use motor oil or a thin oil like Tri-Flow.
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Some freewheels call for mineral oil.
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the Phil tenacious, is a good viscosity, chain lube a bit thin. but better than nothing.
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Freewheel bearings only turn when the bike is coasting, so chain lube should be fine. Anything too thick might interfere with the pawls engaging properly.
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Originally Posted by sweeks View Post
Freewheel bearings only turn when the bike is coasting, so chain lube should be fine. Anything too thick might interfere with the pawls engaging properly.
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really comforting and settling comments, I am done with the freewheel, but made a mistake by the way, having added oil from the bearing slot successfully, I also added oil to the hub bearing of axle because there is also a slot, but then I hear the louder noise when riding the bike, sounds like the oil is too thin that the steel bearing balls are not holden in position but moving around, however it was not so before this incident, now should I have to open the axle bearing and regrease it? or it will automatically recover, I mean the thin chain lab will spins out?
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really comforting and settling comments, I am done with the freewheel, but made a mistake by the way, having added oil from the bearing slot successfully, I also added oil to the hub bearing of axle because there is also a slot, but then I hear the louder noise when riding the bike, sounds like the oil is too thin that the steel bearing balls are not holden in position but moving around, however it was not so before this incident, now should I have to open the axle bearing and regrease it? or it will automatically recover, I mean the thin chain lab will spins out?
yes. the axle bearings need grease, the oil will spin out but nothing much will remain.
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... but then I hear the louder noise when riding the bike, sounds like the oil is too thin that the steel bearing balls are not holden in position but moving around...
The bearings aren't supposed to be held in position; they rotate around the axle as the wheel turns. It seems unlikely that getting some chain lube into the wheel bearings would cause an increase in bearing noise; I wouldn't expect it to wash out the bearings in any case. Oil is OK for wheel bearing lubrication except as noted^^ it runs out. Think of grease as a form of "slow-release" oil.
Maybe it's time to learn how to service wheel bearings! Here are a couple places to start:

Park Tools: Hub Overhaul and Adjustment: Cup and Cone Style | Park Tool

Sheldon Brown: Cone Adjustment, Overhauling & Repacking Hubs
Have fun!
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Is there a good way to get lube into a singlespeed freewheel, such that I can extend its life?
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Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
Is there a good way to get lube into a singlespeed freewheel, such that I can extend its life?
Sure: Remove the wheel, lay it down on the side FW up and drip a bit of lightweight machine oil ( Phil, SA, motor oil or whatever is at hand) through the thin gap in the body, give the FW a spin until it "purrs" and let the excess drip/drain out on a shop rag. Repeat when it sounds dry.

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The old bike I rode around the refinery had a freewheel. I used WD-40 as the lube for it and it worked fine considering the environment the bike lived in outdoors 24-7.
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I'd personally use thicker stuff. I use phils tenacious on freewheels when I rebuild them.

Typically I'll clean them with wd-40 or mineral spirits. Then I'll take the top cone off (reverse threaded, usually with a hammer and punch) while the freewheel is held in the vice by the removal tool. (Usually the removal tool is long enough to reach in from the back.) (Note, this method doesn't work for the old style freewheels that were removed by the 2 and 4 prong removal tools.) I'll drip phil's tenacious onto the bearings, then replace the top cone. No way in hell I'm going to attempt to lube the bottom bearings. The oil will drip down enough to get to them so I don't worry about it.
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Yes to the original question.
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I'm astonished that after over a month of these threads some folks are still responding!
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Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
Sure: Remove the wheel, lay it down on the side FW up and drip a bit of lightweight machine oil ( Phil, SA, motor oil or whatever is at hand) through the thin gap in the body, give the FW a spin until it "purrs" and let the excess drip/drain out on a shop rag. Repeat when it sounds dry.

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I think I need a better dripper. I tried once and made a mess. Well, more of a mess than I normally do when attempting bike mechanic things.
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Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
I think I need a better dripper. I tried once and made a mess. Well, more of a mess than I normally do when attempting bike mechanic things.
Since this is the sort of thing you'll do annually at best wrap the FW body in a shop rag and source a small bottle of Phil Tenacious Oil which has the right delivery spout for this and dozens of other uses in the shop.

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Yes you can. Just do as in the video but with FL.

In other systems, with access to the pawls, you can use grease if you wish. Just make sure they dont stick before assembly. It works just fine and it stays put.

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Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
I'm astonished that after over a month of these threads some folks are still responding!
...and during good riding weather to boot!
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I've been cleaning my one and only FW, as described in the video, since about the mid 80's, when I learned the process, from a LBS.

However, I allow the WD40 to completely drain/evaporate over night. Then , the next day , flood the FW with motor oil, via a oil gun. Allow the oil to completely drain, wipe down and reinstall.

That FW is still in use today. KB
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Freewheels get oil, any oil will do.

Do not use grease.

Do not use the "dry" chain lubes. Once the solvent evaporates, they leave behind a very waxy coating that is too think for freewheels.

Like your chain, freewheels need to be oiled periodically. It is easy to do. Just get used to it. Above all, do it.
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