Mavic Rim Terms
09-27-17, 07:55 PM
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Mavic Rim Terms
I am going through my stash of wheels and realize that of the many many many with Mavic rims, I don't have a clue what the terms on those rims mean, or how the rims stack up.
for example I have:
OPEN 4 CD
Open SUP
Open PRO SUP
SUP Ceramic
Reflex SUP
MA2, MA3, MA40 (and one with just plain MA)
And then there is the whole CX series (CX14, CXP10, CXP23) (which I think must be the aero shaped rims and ... I am guessing here - the depth of the rim?)
and that's before going back into the Tubular rims (GP4, Monthely Route,
Can anyone direct me to a reference of what these terms mean (I am particularly interest in what Pro and Open and SUP refer to) or explain them briefly?
for example I have:
OPEN 4 CD
Open SUP
Open PRO SUP
SUP Ceramic
Reflex SUP
MA2, MA3, MA40 (and one with just plain MA)
And then there is the whole CX series (CX14, CXP10, CXP23) (which I think must be the aero shaped rims and ... I am guessing here - the depth of the rim?)
and that's before going back into the Tubular rims (GP4, Monthely Route,
Can anyone direct me to a reference of what these terms mean (I am particularly interest in what Pro and Open and SUP refer to) or explain them briefly?
09-27-17, 08:06 PM
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Many are simply marketing names, ie. Monthlery, Open, etc. the same way bike companies do model names.
The letters and numbers tend to be more spec details.
CD = couche dur, or hard coating = hard anodized
SUP = welded joint, but I don't know what the letter actually are abreviations of.
letters like CX etc, indicate purpose or sub market ie. cyclo-cross or cross country Follow these through and you'll see they're pretty consistant
If I recall correctly the numbers are the inside width of the non-tubular rims, but in the past referred to the wall thickness of tubular rims. ie. Or 7 = gold anodized rim, .7mm wall thickness, Ar 10 = silver anodized 1.0 mm wall.
If you take some time and compare to various catalogs the pattern of reused designations becomes apparent.
The letters and numbers tend to be more spec details.
CD = couche dur, or hard coating = hard anodized
SUP = welded joint, but I don't know what the letter actually are abreviations of.
letters like CX etc, indicate purpose or sub market ie. cyclo-cross or cross country Follow these through and you'll see they're pretty consistant
If I recall correctly the numbers are the inside width of the non-tubular rims, but in the past referred to the wall thickness of tubular rims. ie. Or 7 = gold anodized rim, .7mm wall thickness, Ar 10 = silver anodized 1.0 mm wall.
If you take some time and compare to various catalogs the pattern of reused designations becomes apparent.
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"Open" means a clincher rim as apart from a tubular rim. As FB mentioned "CD" meant hard anodized, which, in my experience, made them brittle. The shortest lived rims I ever owned were a pair of Open 4CD's.
The numbers can be misleading too. The CXP33 rim is not 33 mm deep, it's 24 mm deep.
The numbers can be misleading too. The CXP33 rim is not 33 mm deep, it's 24 mm deep.
09-28-17, 11:20 AM
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The Ceramic was added to make a rim brake rim wear pads , rather than the pads wear the rim..
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What we need to keep in mind is that published names (sometimes containing numbers) are nothing without a dimensional diagram. I have customers who confuse labels with measurements all the time. Andy
