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Old 06-08-05, 09:19 AM
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Or do you need a special machine/stand? Just curious.
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Old 06-08-05, 09:30 AM
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The hand is the best tool ya have. No problem. Truing stand could be helpful towards the end.
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Would you need special tools to install the spokes and attaching the hubs aside from a spoke wrench?

Id like to learn how to lace a rim and at the moment I only have a spoke wrench. What other tools would I need?
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Start here: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html

There's way too much to tell you in a simple way. The best way is to just go through this site and do a lot of reading. (actually, getting someone who knows how to do it to show you would be best way.)

Good luck!
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Old 06-08-05, 09:45 AM
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Thx!
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"You can do it." (Rob Schneider)

For my first wheel I actually used the Barnett manual description and I think there are better manuals out there. You'll figure it out. I look back on some of my early wheels and chuckle at the extensive pencil markings still on the rims telling me where to lace the A, B, C, and D spoke sets. You'll figure out your own process of partially tensioning, partially trueing, middle tensioning, middle trueing, final tensioning, final trueing or whatever you decide on. I like have a trueing stand and the Park tensiometer, but you don't critically need either. Explore spoke length calculators (Sheldonbrown) and figure out your own lengths. An LBS incorrectly calculated and sold me the wrong spokes for my first wheel. It took me three or four rebuilds to realize I had the wrong sizes -- but I learned.
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Old 06-08-05, 09:56 PM
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I use the Jobst book, it is great. THe key to a good wheel is truing it, and truing it to proper tension. I gauged my tension off another wheel that had the same spokes. Comparing sound to gauge tension. One must also take into account dish so that the wheel is cintered to the hub. This is harder on rear wheels. You cna make.buy a dishing gauge.

Use staright pull spokes first as double butted tend to twist more when truing.

Patience is key take your time and its easy.
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Old 06-09-05, 12:26 AM
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I read Jobst Brandt's book as well, but I still turned to Sheldon Brown when it came time to actually build the wheel for the first time
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So... do you only need a spoke wrench?

I'm gonna take apart and try to rebuild a wheel I found on the street a few weeks ago, just to get me into the hang of it.
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The first time I did a wheel, I used my old wheels as a pattern. Just laced the new one to match and had great success. Truing took quite a while at first, but the end result was very much worth it. Go for it.
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Yes, you just need a spoke wrench. When you buy your spokes, the shop will probably be nice enough to let you put on some spoke prep, or you can buy your own. This acts as a lubricant and a thread locker (magic!) to help them seat properly at the prescribed tension and then not unthread.

And straight gauge, not straight pull. Straight pull is something altogether different and you need to have a straight pull compatible hub to use them.
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Old 06-09-05, 09:57 AM
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If you print out the guide on sheldon's site, and follow it step by step, it is really quite easy. Just take your time, and it will turn out fine. Wheels are not all the hard to build, and you'll pick up the basics pretty fast. I'd start with straight 14 ga spokes, and a rim with steel eyelets. They are easier to deal with.
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Go to a store and order Gerd Schraner's book, "The Art of Wheelbuilding" It is a great book with tons of useful info. Jobst's book is o.k. but has a ton o scientific data not useful to most of us.
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A flat blade screwdriver is nice for snugging up the nipples. You will need some kind of truing stand. You can use the bike with the brake blocks as the truing reference, but even a cheap truing stand makes the job a lot nicer.
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Originally Posted by supcom
A flat blade screwdriver is nice for snugging up the nipples. You will need some kind of truing stand. You can use the bike with the brake blocks as the truing reference, but even a cheap truing stand makes the job a lot nicer.
In all my wheelbuilding, I've never needed a truing stand.




Heh, the first wheel I took apart and rebuilt, I marked every spingle spoke and the corresponding hole with a different color nail polish...then found out it really wasn't so hard after all.

Building a bike is like riding one...once you learn how, you never forget.

*has had to break that same wheel down and build it up uncounted times. The wheel is now in the garbage and the bike has a new wheel.*


Wait till you get into the cool things, like five-cross crow's foot spoke lacing pattern. Then you start having some real fun.
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