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Old 12-13-17, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bikeman715 View Post
For anyone info . the distance of the treads on a spoke is 10 MM . The Parktool 's ruler is a great one to use.
Tires have "treads".

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The first time I replaced all the galvanized spokes on a wheelset with stainless DT's I removed a spoke took it to the LBS and asked for 66 spokes like this one.
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Old 12-13-17, 02:55 PM
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And like other threaded items like bolts, getting Cut, You thread the Nut, in this case the spoke nip, on then cut,

the unscrewing the nut should help clear the threads so you can put it back on when building the wheel..

Mechanical 101..
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Old 12-13-17, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NJgreyhead View Post
Homebrew01, Moose: Maybe the OP wants the experience (and possible satisfaction) of doing the job himself?
Could be I suppose, but they didn't say that. Perhaps the OP is under the assumption that this is common practice when in fact, it is not. It is tedious and unproductive to roll your own spoke threads except for rare occasions that call for it.

It's been stated that there's 36 spokes (presumably one wheel's worth) that need adjusted in size. My advice is that it makes more sense to obtain the correct sizes rather than modify the wrong sized spokes as opposed to tooling up and learning as you go for just one wheel.

Unless of course this project requires an extreme bastard size of course, then please dismiss my input.
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Old 12-13-17, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dsprok View Post
the first time i replaced all the galvanized spokes on a wheelset with stainless dt's i removed a spoke took it to the lbs and asked for 66 spokes like this one.
66?
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Old 12-13-17, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
66?
It's a guess the Folding KHS is not with me at the moment.
20 inch wheels, I think they were 32 and 34 hole rims.
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Old 12-13-17, 03:28 PM
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How do I measure and cut spokes?

I call Dan's Comp on the telephone and talk to their spoke guy about specifically what I want and exactly how many. 2 days later they show up on my doorstep. They're cheap too.
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Old 12-13-17, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dsprok View Post
It's a guess the Folding KHS is not with me at the moment.
20 inch wheels, I think they were 32 and 34 hole rims.
Well 32 is a common number but 34 isn't divisible by either 3 or 4. What does a 34 spoke wheel look like? Wanted a couple of spares maybe?
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I bet the rear wheel is 36 then. I'll check when I get home tonight.
The front is radial spoked the rear looks standard cross spoked.
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Old 12-13-17, 03:39 PM
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I always order a spare with each batch. Haven't needed it yet, but it's much cheaper than ordering an individual spoke later!
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Old 12-13-17, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dsprok View Post
I bet the rear wheel is 36 then. I'll check when I get home tonight.
The front is radial spoked the rear looks standard cross spoked.
Update: Front and back have 36 spokes each. Every back spoke crosses 2 others.

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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
How do I measure and cut spokes?

I call Dan's Comp on the telephone and talk to their spoke guy about specifically what I want and exactly how many. 2 days later they show up on my doorstep. They're cheap too.
Amen.

I'm all for doing my own work, but I've drawn the line at cutting and threading spokes. The tooling to do it right costs a lot more than Dan's Comp charges to cut & thread them for me. And they ship 'em to my door faster than I'd probably be able to get 'em done myself.

I still have to measure myself, though, and while a spoke ruler is handy, I've managed to get by using a regular steel ruler.
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Old 12-14-17, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bike_galpal View Post
what a silly question. ever heard the expression "wheelhouse"? it exists because everything about wheelbuilding is very specific for that purpose.

spoke ruler. spoke cutter. nothing less.
"Wheelhouse" means within someone's competency or control and comes from ships. What did you mean?
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Old 12-14-17, 04:00 PM
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On Actual Ships that's 'the Bridge'..

Wheel house Company own a Machine to automatically tension all the spokes at once..

its how bike factories and wholesale distributors get them made for less and faster..





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Old 12-14-17, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
On Actual Ships that's 'the Bridge'..

Wheel house Company own a Machine to automatically tension all the spokes at once..

its how bike factories and wholesale distributors get them made for less and faster..


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On actual ships the bridge (command deck) and wheelhouse (a box container the steering control) were separate at one time, and the bridge itself was open to the weather. Wheelhouse is now used for a small bridge, like on tugboats and ferries.

I don't think Galpal was talking about either the Wheel House company or ships, but the phrase "in my wheelhouse", which is based on the nautical term.
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Old 12-14-17, 05:27 PM
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On actual ships the bridge (command deck) and wheelhouse (a box container the steering control) were separate at one time, and the bridge itself was open to the weather. Wheelhouse is now used for a small bridge, like on tugboats and ferries.

I don't think Galpal was talking about either the Wheel House company or ships, but the phrase "in my wheelhouse", which is based on the nautical term.
And in baseball, wheelhouse has an entirely different meaning.
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Old 12-14-17, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
And in baseball, wheelhouse has an entirely different meaning.
And none of them have anything to do with wheelbuilding.
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Old 12-14-17, 08:53 PM
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And in baseball, wheelhouse has an entirely different meaning.
Hmmm. I'm a baseball fan and have never heard that one before. How is it used, please?
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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
Hmmm. I'm a baseball fan and have never heard that one before. How is it used, please?

What's a 'Wheelhouse' and Why is Something in Mine? | Mental Floss

" ..And Baseball
The term "wheelhouse" appears to have entered common use through baseball. In baseball, a batter's "wheelhouse" is the part of a batter's strike zone in which he or she is most likely to hit a home run. It seems likely that the nautical form of "wheelhouse" was borrowed by baseball, becoming prominent in baseball writing starting in the 1950s."
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
What's a 'Wheelhouse' and Why is Something in Mine? | Mental Floss

" ..And Baseball
The term "wheelhouse" appears to have entered common use through baseball. In baseball, a batter's "wheelhouse" is the part of a batter's strike zone in which he or she is most likely to hit a home run. It seems likely that the nautical form of "wheelhouse" was borrowed by baseball, becoming prominent in baseball writing starting in the 1950s."
Makes perfect sense. Thanks. I've been a fan since the 70s and never heard that. Crazy.

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Originally Posted by Dsprok View Post
Update: Front and back have 36 spokes each. Every back spoke crosses 2 others.
I'll bet it crosses 3. Check for an extra cross up on the hub flange.
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I'll bet it crosses 3. Check for an extra cross up on the hub flange.
You won the bet Retro.
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Old 12-15-17, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dsprok View Post
You won the bet Retro.
Yeah, 36 spokes crossed 3 is a real common lacking pattern. If you're looking for a really competent wheel builder in your area, check out the post two up from mine.
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Originally Posted by sweeks View Post
Spokes like that are measured from the inside of the bend to the end of the threads. You can do it with a ruler.
Then all you have to do is mark them for cutting... maybe make a jig of some kind.
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Thanks. First I need to see that the spoke threader will thread longer than necessary. Then maybe stick a nail in a board (to hook each spoke on) and set up my custom-made rotary tool chop saw at 8.25 inches (just less than 210 mm). Hopefully the spokes will be no more than 1/4 inch longer than necessary and can be chopped off (trimmed) when in place. I have a 100 spoke pack but willing to buy more if necessary. It must be done, someday.

My hub is a Nimbus Drift Trike Cotterless freewheeling hub. The spoke connection points are a bit wide so there is some tension when pulling the spoke towards the center of the rim.
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Old 12-28-17, 05:29 PM
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In NYC area? If so, I may be able to get access to a cutter to do the job. It is Christmas....
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