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Old 12-20-17, 04:00 PM
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Two spoke colors

I'm planning a new set of wheels.
Sized the spokes already, front and non-drive are all 290 and drive side is 288.
So I was thinking of getting the shorter ones in stainless and the rest of them in black.
Partly to make it obvious when I'm building, partly because it might be interesting.
How weird would that look? Would I be sorry?

Black rims, black hubs, black spokes with black nipples, stainless spokes with chrome nipples
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Why would you be sorry?

The sorting issue is very minor, so it's more about the cosmetic.

If I were ever to fool around with two colors, I'd do a pair or group of 4 at or opposite the valve. That would save me 3 seconds I'm currently wasting daily, by spinning the wheel to find the valve.
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black spokes with chrome nipples, chrome spokes with black nipples... half and half... one direction chrome, one direction black.

why not? go for it!
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Originally Posted by maddog34 View Post
black spokes with chrome nipples, chrome spokes with black nipples... half and half... one direction chrome, one direction black.

why not? go for it!
+1 on this!
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Originally Posted by maddog34 View Post
black spokes with chrome nipples, chrome spokes with black nipples... half and half... one direction chrome, one direction black.
Whoa... that's just CRAZY!
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Whoa... that's just CRAZY!
crazy good... seen it once... looks interesting when spinning... the black ones kinda vanish in the sun...


the rear wheel will require half the 288's be black, half chrome... use the chromes as the driven, tension direction (innies!).... hub hole leading rim hole... the 290's are half and half too... easy.

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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Whoa... that's just CRAZY!
I'll give ya crazy



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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Whoa... that's just CRAZY!
Nah. This is crazy

DSCN0370 by Stuart Black, on Flickr

It goes with the bike's decals

DSCN0465 by Stuart Black, on Flickr

But different colored spokes...that's just weird
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Different spokes for different folks.
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Personally, I think it will be a little odd. While every other spoke will be different, all the spokes on one side will be one color, and all the spokes on the other side will be the other.

You're better off just getting Titanium Rainbow spokes.

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Originally Posted by maddog34 View Post
crazy good... seen it once... looks interesting when spinning... the black ones kinda vanish in the sun...


the rear wheel will require half the 288's be black, half chrome... use the chromes as the driven, tension direction (innies!).... hub hole leading rim hole... the 290's are half and half too... easy.
One of the things that I was trying to convey with my original idea, is that "these are no off-the-peg wheels, I obviously built them myself". So while I'm a little too conventional to embrace your idea right off the bat... it is growing on me.

Chrome pulling spokes, black pushing spokes... that would definitely send a unique message.
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I definitely like the idea of putting silver or white spokes around the valve stem.

Remember that if your rims are black, then black nipples, even if they're only half of them black and the other half silver, will just disappear, and not have the visual impact you might be going for. Thus the black spokes with silver nipples and then black rims will have the visually alternating impact that you want, whereas having black nipples on the silver spokes will not, because the black rims will swallow the black nipples visually. You'll have half of your spoke/nipple/rim being three-tone, and half of them being only two-tone.

What you might consider is getting spoke nipples of a completely different color. That would unfortunately require aluminum nipples, unless you can find someone selling brass nipples other than black or silver (I'm sure someone does).

One example, though it might be too visually "busy":

Black rim/gold nipple/black spoke
Black rim/red nipple/silver spoke

Or maybe gold nipples with the silver spokes, and silver nipples with the black spokes.

I also do really like the idea of having all the pulling spokes be one color, and all the pushing spokes being another. I think that could be very pimp.
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Here's another idea that could look pretty badass.

Say we're making a 32-spoke wheel, so 16 per side, with 8 pulling and 8 pushing spokes per side. Make all of the pushing spokes silver. Make every other pulling spoke black. The other 4 pulling spokes are silver, and evenly spaced around the wheel, on both sides. Arrange it so that the black pulling spokes on both sides are in adjacent locations.

Visually this could sort of make the wheel look like a 4-spoke aero wheel, particularly once it starts moving slowly. The same thing could be done with a 24-spoke wheel, making the appearance of a 3-spoke aero wheel.

I just doctored up a wheel pic in MS Paint to show this last suggestion. I think this would look pretty cool. You could even use a bladed spoke like a CX-Sprint (is a 2.0/1.8 double-butted spoke before the center is flattened) for the black spokes, and conventional 2.0/1.8 double butted for the light spokes, to accentuate the visual impact of the black spokes making the virtual three-spoke pattern.


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your wheels, you choice....tubular rims? Now if you could just someone to show you how to fold a tubular tire
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I went a little crazy with spoke colours on my most recent build.
I powder coated the spokes white except for the ones meant for either side of the valve stem. I made those green.





The green worked with the bike decals.



Powder coated the hub shells white while I was at it.

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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
I went a little crazy with spoke colours on my most recent build.
I powder coated the spokes white except for the ones meant for either side of the valve stem. I made those green.
How thick is that powder coating? I guess the real question is, does the powder coating noticeably bulk up the spokes?
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Originally Posted by squirtdad View Post
your wheels, you choice....tubular rims? Now if you could just someone to show you how to fold a tubular tire
You know, it used to be if you Googled "how to fold a spare tubular", the DiabloScott photo tutorial was at the top. In the last few years though, a bunch of newb ****ers have flooded the web with inferior offerings.

Yeah, my GL330s are probably on their last season, and the hubs are getting tired too... and my bike deserves something special.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
You know, it used to be if you Googled "how to fold a spare tubular", the DiabloScott photo tutorial was at the top. In the last few years though, a bunch of newb ****ers have flooded the web with inferior offerings.

Yeah, my GL330s are probably on their last season, and the hubs are getting tired too... and my bike deserves something special.
Your link didn't work for me just now. 404 error.
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Originally Posted by SethAZ View Post
Your link didn't work for me just now. 404 error.
Hmmm, how about this?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ttQAwX7JAkjDDT9p2

I used to have comments in there with people thanking me... probably before Google ended Picasa.

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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
That worked. And that looks like a really neat solution. I don't use tubulars, but I do admire a nice solution to an good problem.
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Originally Posted by SethAZ View Post
How thick is that powder coating? I guess the real question is, does the powder coating noticeably bulk up the spokes?
You can still read the DT logo on the spoke heads, so no.
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When my FLBS built my rear Pacenti Forza wheel, they didn't have enough black spokes so we decided to go 2-color. Black rims, red hubs, red nipples, black spokes on the drivetrain side, stainless on the non-drive side. I think it looks pretty cool.
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Originally Posted by atwl77 View Post
When my FLBS built my rear Pacenti Forza wheel, they didn't have enough black spokes so we decided to go 2-color. Black rims, red hubs, red nipples, black spokes on the drivetrain side, stainless on the non-drive side. I think it looks pretty cool.
I think we need some photos!
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I posted a picture of my bike in the Road Cycling forum before:
Photos of YOUR bicycle near WATER


A little hard to see the dual color on the rear wheel though, I should get a better picture when I'm free.


Edit: This one here's a better look:
What road bike do you have?


Also a correction to my original post, black is on the non-drive side in radial lacing pattern.

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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
You can still read the DT logo on the spoke heads, so no.
Thanks. Not gonna lie, I spent a while browsing to learn more about powder coating after seeing your posts. I was curious about whether there would be issues powder coating stainless spokes, whether there were colors like gold, etc. It might be something I'm interested in doing at some point. I don't have the facilities for it, but it probably wouldn't be too hard to find a local powder coater willing to do some spokes.
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