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Checking your chain for wear
So, been biking for little over two years now and when to replace my chain is getting more confusing as I try. I started with a KMC 10.93 ten speed chain and I replaced this at 3/32 inch elongation based on using a metal one foot ruler I have had in my tool box for years. I actually went to long based on the ruler. On my second chain I used the Shimano CN-HG95 10 speed chain and purchased the Park CC-3.2 chain checker:
https://www.parktool.com/product/cha...dicator-cc-3-2 So, I used the ruler method and the Park chain checker and when the Park showed .5 wear and the ruler said 1/32 inch elongation, I replaced the chain with Shimano CN-HG95 10 speed. Now on my third chain I decided to get the Pedro Chain Checker Plus II, which says it takes roller play out of the equation. https://pedros.com/products/tools/ca...ecker-plus-ii/ And in the process I decided to purchase a new steel 18 inch ruler so that I could measure the elongation more exact then guessing 1/16 inch with the one foot ruler. At this point with around 2200 miles on the chain, the Park tool says worn out at .5, the old metal ruler says 1/32 elongation, the Pedro says still good, and the new 18 inch ruler shows no elongation at all. Huh? So, I compared my old metal to new one and it is off. It is showing short by 1/32 inch for a foot. I checked this against a drafting ruler I have and just a tape measure and my new 18 inch steel is matching both. Ok, so I ditch the old ruler which I have been using and get my old two chains out of the drawer: 1.) First KMC chain: Pedro shows good, Park shows bad, and new metal ruler says 1/16 inch elongation. 2.) Second Shimano chain: Pedro shows good, Park shows bad, and new metal ruler shows zero elongation. 3.) Third Shimano chain: Pedro shows good, Park shows bad, and new metal ruler shows zero elongation. Thus, based on the above I replaced my chains to early using a inaccurate ruler and Park tool. And it looks like the Pedro tool is more forgiving as my first chain is elongated by 1/16 inch for sure, but the Pedro says still not worn to .5. So, based on the above I think I will just go with the ruler as most people have stated on this forum as the best. But I was sure hoping the Pedro checker would be better than the ruler method. I also at this point show cassette wear and that will be replaced after this third chain. |
Might be a stupid question, but are you putting tension on the chain when you measure with the ruler? Doesn't take much, but probably more than a derailleur pulley cage spring will provide. If you take them off and hang them, their own weight will do it. A finishing nail in the wall works fine.
Chain checker tools put some tension on the chain automatically. |
Chain checkers are valuable because they reduce human error--they are less precise than a literal measuring of length of a tensioned chain can potentially be, but in a shop environment in particular mechanics should check chains on literally every used bike they touch, and speeding up that process is critical. Measuring with a ruler accurately takes a steady hand, a good eye, and a solid moment of concentration. Your Pedro's tool, along with the Shimano chain checkers, are the most accurate.
At work I use a Rohloff chain checker. I've never seen it underestimate wear, but the majority of the time its results are sufficiently accurate. I do double check with a ruler when the result is borderline, particularly when considering whether a cassette of freewheel is likely to need replacement due to excessive wear. |
A nice thing about an your new 18-inch rule is that you can start your measurement at the 1-inch mark and measure to 13; this is easier to do precisely than to line up to the end of a rule. This is how the old 3-sided drafters' scales worked.
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The park tool is junk.
Just use a ruler. |
Your problem is using a "ruler". A ruler is a person in charge of some where. A thing that measures is a "scale". Sorry, I'm a machinist and if I called it a "ruler" instead of a "scale" I'd get crucified. Methinks too many people worry needlessly about chain "stretch" and other nonsense. Also, get a precision scale such as Starrett or Browne and Sharpe, not the local Harbor Freight special. Sure you'll pay more but quality costs.
Just my 2 cents worth. Jon |
I bought the Pedros tool and it seems to do the job.
I bought the Rohloff years ago and after a while used it until it showed the chain was shot and then went to the tape measure. |
Scale it is! Just like saddle, it took me a while to switch from seat. And the Starrett or Brown and Sharpe, are very nice. Brown and Sharpe are in my budget.
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Chains don't cross an imaginary line of being worn out, its a big wide gray area. All of these measures are useful information. Scales/rulers are useful if your objective is exactly 1% elongation, which is still in the gray area.
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And there is... https://www.rohloff.de/en/shop/wear-indicators/ + a digital read out chain wear checker from KMC..
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The problem with "gray area" is that too many wait for a part to be completely worn out and wind up getting stuck on the side of the road when things break.
That's the purpose of a spec, to prevent people from running stuff down to the point where it breaks. -Tim- |
Originally Posted by TimothyH
(Post 20194266)
The problem with "gray area" is that too many wait for a part to be completely worn out and wind up getting stuck on the side of the road when things break.
That's the purpose of a spec, to prevent people from running stuff down to the point where it breaks. And chains generally don't break for being worn out - they break because they're damaged somehow. So your point is valid for a lot of stuff, but doesn't really apply to chain checkers. Full disclosure - I use the Park tool - it's really handy. I know the limitations, and I'm fine with them. |
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