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Old 03-16-18, 12:35 PM
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One more idea. Take a dremel tool with the very thin blade and cut a slot for a flat blade screwdriver. Soak the bolt over night in thin oil. Or better yet soak the bolt in a mixture of automatic tranny fluid and naptha. After lightly tapping in on the bolt to unload it, use the screwdriver to back it out.
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Heating/cooling for stuck canti bolt

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I have a problem like the OP’s. A brake bolt has broken off in the canti boss of my Miyata 610. The break occurred below the rim of the boss, so I don’t believe I would be able to weld anything to the bolt without also welding my extraction nut to the boss.

I was thinking of using a combo of a left-handed bit and thermal expansion on the boss—guessing that the thin walls of the boss would heat quicker than the bolt, I was imagining a quick heat followed by a quick extraction.

What’s the benefit of heating the bolt itself? If I heat/cool the bolt, am I trying to create wiggle room in the boss threads?

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Originally Posted by 206Moser
Hi,

I have a problem like the OP’s. A brake bolt has broken off in the canti boss of my Miyata 610. The break occurred below the rim of the boss, so I don’t believe I would be able to weld anything to the bolt without also welding my extraction nut to the boss.

I was thinking of using a combo of a left-handed bit and thermal expansion on the boss—guessing that the thin walls of the boss would heat quicker than the bolt, I was imagining a quick heat followed by a quick extraction.

What’s the benefit of heating the bolt itself? If I heat/cool the bolt, am I trying to create wiggle room in the boss threads?
If I was going to attempt that here I would try heating the post & cooling it down a few times before I would try drilling it out with a LH bit. Some canti post have open backs & with this type if you are careful enough you can drill it out and re thread it also.

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Originally Posted by 206Moser
Hi,

I have a problem like the OP’s. A brake bolt has broken off in the canti boss of my Miyata 610. The break occurred below the rim of the boss, so I don’t believe I would be able to weld anything to the bolt without also welding my extraction nut to the boss.

I was thinking of using a combo of a left-handed bit and thermal expansion on the boss—guessing that the thin walls of the boss would heat quicker than the bolt, I was imagining a quick heat followed by a quick extraction.

What’s the benefit of heating the bolt itself? If I heat/cool the bolt, am I trying to create wiggle room in the boss threads?
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Originally Posted by 206Moser
Hi,

I have a problem like the OP’s. A brake bolt has broken off in the canti boss of my Miyata 610. The break occurred below the rim of the boss, so I don’t believe I would be able to weld anything to the bolt without also welding my extraction nut to the boss.

I was thinking of using a combo of a left-handed bit and thermal expansion on the boss—guessing that the thin walls of the boss would heat quicker than the bolt, I was imagining a quick heat followed by a quick extraction.

What’s the benefit of heating the bolt itself? If I heat/cool the bolt, am I trying to create wiggle room in the boss threads?
If you heat everything up, quite hot, you may be able to break the rust bond between the bolt and the canti boss. It's a good start- it may create some space for penetrant to find it's way in. You can use differential cooling- heat everything, and then try to cool just the bolt. Probably jolts of brake cleaner with a red straw is the only way to get it cooled. The idea is to shock the bolt thermally, which MAY pop it loose. It's worked for me, a few times. If it does work, make sure someone's watching, you're going to look like a genius.

As noted above, you're pretty much down to left-hand drills to try to back it out. DO NOT USE AN EZ-OUT. If a left-hand drill won't get it, neither will an EZ-Out. Try to drill on-center, start small and increase. You're probably going to have to drill the bolt out entirely, and re-tap the threads in the boss. Left handers will give you a fighting chance to back it out in that process. DO NOT GET THE LEFT HAND DRILLS AT HARBOR FREIGHT. ASK ME HOW I KNOW THIS. Irwin makes a good 5pc set that you can find on the big shopping site.
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