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Old 04-09-18, 05:05 PM
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Ideas for mounting a second water bottle cage?

My newest old bike is a 1985 Miyata Two-Ten that I have tweaked to use as an all-surface ride. The Two-Ten has essentially the same great triple butted steel touring frame as it's higher end Six Ten and One Thousand siblings with one glaring exception.....the Two-Ten has only one set of water bottle bosses. I would love to be able to mount a second bottle cage. I use a Camelbak for longer ride but don't like to use it if I am just out for a couple hours; a second bottle is enough.

In the past, I have resorted to pipe clamps and scrap inner tube rubber in a pinch to mount extra cages on other bikes, but I believe this Miyata merits a more elegant solution if I can find one.



I've looked around online and have seen a few options - saddle mounted cages, etc. But most seem either pretty clunky or flimsy (I ride a fair amount of dirt and gravel)...or both.

I know some people cut frames to weld in new bottle bosses. Not sure I am brae enough for that or can find someone experienced in making this modification in my neck of the woods. Besides, the frame and paint are in pretty good shape.

So, does anyone know of something better than pipe clamps? If not, are there specific clamps that can be used that are a little less conspicuous than the regular hardware store types?

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I would go with the KingCage Universal Support Bolt which is basically a pipe clamp with a 5mm stud welded onto it. Then you can mount whatever cage you want, at whatever height you want. And not terrible at 6 bucks apiece. You can put a strip of rubber under the clamp if you're worried about the paint. I don't like many of the other cage mounts, as the make the cage stick out like an inch from the tube.


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I bought the Wolf Tooth double bottle adapter and it is working out really well. This could be another option for you. I've been using it for over a year on both pavement and trails. Haven't had any problems yet.

https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...e-cage-adapter
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Why not just drill and tap a couple more holes in the frame where you want it, maybe diagonally across from the existing one. I did that on my old Huffy for extra water carrying. I still haven't figured out a spot on my latest bike for a second bottle because it's a FS and there just aren't any open areas on the frame.
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Old 04-09-18, 05:33 PM
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Old 04-09-18, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbus View Post
Why not just drill and tap a couple more holes in the frame where you want it, maybe diagonally across from the existing one. I did that on my old Huffy for extra water carrying. I still haven't figured out a spot on my latest bike for a second bottle because it's a FS and there just aren't any open areas on the frame.

Old huffys used thick wall steel tubes, like water pipes of old..

a Riv-Nut is the way you put a threaded insert into thin wall steel of better bikes..
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Thanks all. The King Cage and Wolf Tooth solutions look like they might be sturdy enough to stand up.
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There are bottle cages that clamp to the seatpost or brackets for a cage that attach to the saddle rails. Both type avoid damaging the paint and don't require drilling holes.
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I like this clamp adapter (there are some with adapter for smaller tube size). I have this installed on my head tube, left side. Great to reach with your right hand, left hand gives you a not natural angle to hold it. It also helps my brake cable to stay 'in place' on my Tri-A

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bike-Handle...ADfcfEGtY3TG3g
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Originally Posted by Bigbus View Post
Why not just drill and tap a couple more holes in the frame where you want it, maybe diagonally across from the existing one. I did that on my old Huffy for extra water carrying. I still haven't figured out a spot on my latest bike for a second bottle because it's a FS and there just aren't any open areas on the frame.
I definitely wouldn't try that on any butted tubing bike. Actually, I'm a little surprised it worked with your Huffy.
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A pair of DMR Hinged Clamps. Rock solid.


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Zefal used to make a plastic clamp that mounted on traditional-diameter steel down-tubes and seat-tubes. I have them on multiple bikes.
They no longer produce these, instead opting for a universal-size with zipties.
Gizmo Universal - Universal bottle cage
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Originally Posted by Vintage_Cyclist View Post
A pair of DMR Hinged Clamps. Rock solid.
Perfect! Makes sense; same idea as the downtube cable stop I had to install to switch the bike from downtube shifters. And available from Wiggle to boot; easy to get them shipped to Canada.
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Something like this would allow you to mount on the down tube or handlebar securely... https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5018-9...Go-Bottle-Cage
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Here's what I'm using (for a fork mount, but would be fine on the downtube):



https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B003SOROKE/
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Originally Posted by phtomita View Post
I like this clamp adapter (there are some with adapter for smaller tube size). I have this installed on my head tube, left side. Great to reach with your right hand, left hand gives you a not natural angle to hold it. It also helps my brake cable to stay 'in place' on my Tri-A

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bike-Handle...ADfcfEGtY3TG3g
can the affixed piece be repositioned for orientation? Turned 90 ?
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One more option. https://velo-orange.com/collections/...tle-cage-clamp
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
I would go with the KingCage Universal Support Bolt which is basically a pipe clamp with a 5mm stud welded onto it. Then you can mount whatever cage you want, at whatever height you want. And not terrible at 6 bucks apiece. You can put a strip of rubber under the clamp if you're worried about the paint. I don't like many of the other cage mounts, as the make the cage stick out like an inch from the tube.



This +1. Andy
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Originally Posted by Troul View Post
can the affixed piece be repositioned for orientation? Turned 90 ?
Yes, you can turn it.
Very solid - before used to have in the handlebar (modern bike) - and now moved it down to the head tube for my Tri-A.
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can the affixed piece be repositioned for orientation? Turned 90 ?
also meant to ask if theres a larger diameter option ie: 51mm+
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Two choices: handlebar mount or saddle mount. Walmart used to sell a handlebar mount, not sure if they still do it.
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Specialized used to offer a nice handlebar bottle cage, on my bike i has as a kid, in the 50's, I had a double bottle mount on the handlebars..


Of course you could just put a bigger capacity bottle in.. Zefal makes som Liter sized..
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also meant to ask if theres a larger diameter option ie: 51mm+
I never saw with larger diameter. It is 31.8 mm and vicinity only.
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