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Old 04-10-18, 10:35 AM
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What would cause a broken wheel to be "effed"?

So I had an accident last weekend. Rear derailleur hanger broke mid-ride sending the RD into the rear wheel, breaking a spoke, bending 3 others and cracking my carbon frame.

Frame's obviously toast, but a friend of a friend owns a bike shop and my friend said that after looking at it, his bike buddy said the wheel was "effed".

After the crash, the rim seemed OK, outside of the one broken spoke and 3 bent ones on the drive-side. I would have figured it would have been as easy as replacing the 4 broken/bent spokes and re-truing the wheel.

Anything else that could have caused him to say that? Hub worked fine when I tested it and as I said, the rim seemed straight without anything bent. Wondering if it's worth me buying 4 new spokes and doing it myself




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Perhaps one of the damaged spokes pulled a nipple partially through the rim or damaged a nipple seat. Examine the rim in detail to see if there is any subtle damage.
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Definitions of "effed" vary. If the rim isn't cracked anywhere, I would be tempted to buy more spokes and fix it up. Note: you may want to buy a few extra for each side in case there is latent damage to any spokes that didn't break.
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Originally Posted by musicmaster
So I had an accident last weekend. Rear derailleur hanger broke mid-ride sending the RD into the rear wheel, breaking a spoke, bending 3 others and cracking my carbon frame.

Frame's obviously toast, but a friend of a friend owns a bike shop and my friend said that after looking at it, his bike buddy said the wheel was "effed".

After the crash, the rim seemed OK, outside of the one broken spoke and 3 bent ones on the drive-side. I would have figured it would have been as easy as replacing the 4 broken/bent spokes and re-truing the wheel.

Anything else that could have caused him to say that? Hub worked fine when I tested it and as I said, the rim seemed straight without anything bent. Wondering if it's worth me buying 4 new spokes and doing it myself

When you asked the person who said it, what did they say? No doubt it was not an attempt to sell a new wheel.

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I'd say unless the hub is effed, the wheel is not. But costs factor in at some point I suppose. If it's cheaper to replace the whole wheel than it is to buy spokes, a rim, and the cost of building, you could justify calling it effed.

Be a shame to throw away a repairable wheel though...
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So I had an accident last weekend.
that would probably do it.
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What do you think that you have to lose by trying to fix it?
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Originally Posted by musicmaster
So I had an accident last weekend. Rear derailleur hanger broke mid-ride sending the RD into the rear wheel, breaking a spoke, bending 3 others and cracking my carbon frame.

Frame's obviously toast, but a friend of a friend owns a bike shop and my friend said that after looking at it, his bike buddy said the wheel was "effed".

After the crash, the rim seemed OK, outside of the one broken spoke and 3 bent ones on the drive-side. I would have figured it would have been as easy as replacing the 4 broken/bent spokes and re-truing the wheel.
First, I don't know if anyone else is having a problem but your pictures aren't posting.

That said, sending the rear derailer into the wheel doesn't do anything good for the wheel. Sending the rear derailer into the wheel and breaking a spoke while damaging 3 others is even worse. Breaking the frame while breaking a spoke and damaging 3 others makes damaging the wheel somewhat trivial. Frankly, salvaging the wheel is the least of your worries.

As for just replacing 4 spokes, that's not trivial. You haven't said how many spokes you have but even if the bike had 36 spokes, replacing 4 of them shouldn't be done by simple removing the spokes and replacing them. You really should detension the wheel lace in the new spokes and retension. That's a fair amount of work which, again, may not be worth the time and effort depending on the wheel.
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Replacing 4 spokes is trivial if the rim and hub weren't damaged. If you have any doubt about length, remove an undamaged spoke to measure. Insert the new spokes and bring them up to tension while leaving the rest alone - this will tell you how much the rim has been affected by the abrupt change in tension during and after being broken.
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