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SNAFU or cluster!@#$....CF expander/compression plug
I have a vintage full carbon fibre fork with a 1" steerer.
The carbon fibre steerer has an ID of >>2cm<< the compression plug I bought has an OD of 2.22cm and it seems to be common for compression plugs of this size. :mad: I have thought of whittling the existing compression plug down to 1.9cm but I would have to remove material from a marginally 'strong' part. :cry: Any kind soul out there know where I could get a compression plug which would fit ? |
I might consider a solid (with threaded draw bolt hole of course) self made plug of AL and bond it into place. Andy
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Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
(Post 20287044)
I might consider a solid (with threaded draw bolt hole of course) self made plug of AL and bond it into place. Andy
Yes I have thought of it but read the above =P, I was stupid young when I got it and in the process of reviving an old ride for my son. Sorry for the blah and thank you for the advice. Great idea by the way. |
Originally Posted by L0TT0
(Post 20286974)
I have thought of whittling the existing compression plug down to 1.9cm but I would have to remove material from a marginally 'strong' part. :cry:
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[MENTION=481085]L0TT0[/MENTION] is likely using a plug designed specifically for 1 1/8" steerers.
Plugs for 1" steerer are available. A good shop will have a selection of plugs to try. Expansion plugs cannot be "Whittled" down. They have a knurled surface to grip the inside diameter of the steerer and any attempt to file or machine it will ruin it. -Tim- |
Expansion plugs are specifically made for steel or carbon steerers in both 1" and 1-1/8". You need to find a 1" carbon steerer plug.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
(Post 20287433)
[MENTION=481085]L0TT0[/MENTION] is likely using a plug designed specifically for 1 1/8" steerers.
Plugs for 1" steerer are available. A good shop will have a selection of plugs to try. Expansion plugs cannot be "Whittled" down. They have a knurled surface to grip the inside diameter of the steerer and any attempt to file or machine it will ruin it. -Tim- I have bought one sad thing is that most of the of these have an diameter of 2.2 at the minimum. |
Profile Design compression plugs on eBay (or Treefort, Niagara, etc.) go down to 19.6mm. Can't vouch for quality, but have used one of their stems in the past. Or maybe an older Cinelli 1".
John Edit added: I would think a 22mm minimum would be for a 1-1/8" steerer considering a 1" steerer has a 25.4mm OD. 1.7mm wall thickness seems a bit thin for a carbon steering tube. |
Originally Posted by 70sSanO
(Post 20287660)
Profile Design compression plugs on eBay (or Treefort, Niagara, etc.) go down to 19.6mm. Can't vouch for quality, but have used one of their stems in the past. Or maybe an older Cinelli 1".
John Edit added: I would think a 22mm minimum would be for a 1-1/8" steerer considering a 1" steerer has a 25.4mm OD. 1.7mm wall thickness seems a bit thin for a carbon steering tube. |
Originally Posted by HillRider
(Post 20287453)
Expansion plugs are specifically made for steel or carbon steerers in both 1" and 1-1/8". You need to find a 1" carbon steerer plug.
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Cinelli 1" expander plug Universal Cycles
https://www.universalcycles.com/imag...dium/84687.jpg The top cap even has the classic Cinelli dove icon which is a bit of a collector item. The top cap may need to be replaced with a 1.125 cap however, depending on the OP's application |
Originally Posted by TimothyH
(Post 20288126)
Cinelli 1" expander plug Universal Cycles
https://www.universalcycles.com/imag...dium/84687.jpg The top cap even has the classic Cinelli dove icon which is a bit of a collector item. The top cap may need to be replaced with a 1.125 cap however, depending on the OP's application |
Originally Posted by Crankycrank
(Post 20287234)
The plug really doesn't need to be super strong. Once you've set your bearing preload and tightened down the stem bolts it's job is done.
The reason to have a pressure plug isn't for drawing up bearing preload, that can be done other ways. It's to keep the carbon steerer from collapsing or cracking from the pressure (hence the name) of the stem clamping. Not a problem for steel or AL steerers. Andy (who remind all of one more reason to be careful about carbon in certain applications) |
This video explains the purpose of an expansion plug, why they are used and what to look fo when selecting one.
The video is worth the ten minutes for anyone who has a carbon steerer. -Tim- |
You guys have been great. thank you =)
I have already moved on to phase two of my little project.....assembly. |
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