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Old 05-05-18, 11:24 AM
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I've re-used plenty of spokes and nipples without issues but always DT spokes and nipples and usually my builds and known histories. BUT I'm having trouble today. The spokes are Wheelsmith straight guage (black) from a 9 speed 105/CXP-21 wheelset. I'm moving these spokes and rims to a 6207 FW hub. While bringing it to tension, one nipple let's go. I tried another nipple and got the same result. The nipples are brass DT and while used are in good shape. Next, I try a brand new unused DT nipple and it also lets go. Lastly, I use one of the alloy nipples from the original 9 speed wheel and it o
hilds fine but another brass DT lets go.

Are these Wheelsmith spoke threads different? Do I need to get Wheelsmith nipples?
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Old 05-05-18, 11:40 AM
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Are you sure the spokes are 2.0mm, and not 1.8mm?
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i resemble that description


if the original nipples work for those spokes then yeah, those other nipples must be different thread


i suppose it's like anything, even with bicycle spokes and nipples, it isn't standardized
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Are you sure the spokes are 2.0mm, and not 1.8mm?
no. But the W spokes do feel look thinner and there is no butting at the ends. So, 2.0 nipples will engage somewhat on 1.8 spokes?
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no. But the W spokes do feel look thinner and there is no butting at the ends. So, 2.0 nipples will engage somewhat on 1.8 spokes?
I think so. However, they'll feel loose and wiggly.

I once built a wheel years ago with a pile of used spokes and nipples of different sizes... what a mess.

Your old nipples probably won't thread very far onto other spokes.

You may be able to compare threads between WM spokes, and other spokes you may have by laying them next to each other, perhaps under a magnifying glass.
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That's it! The alloy spokes from the original build won't go spin on to my DT Comp spokes that I usually use. What threw me off was searching for spokes on line and it seemed that the only difference was the length of 12 or more mm.

Thanks clifford.
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I think the price of butted spokes has fallen over the years, so 1.8mm straight gauge spokes have fallen out of favor in recent years, except for cut single butted spokes.
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