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Old 05-13-18, 05:00 PM
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Front wheel on backwards?

Let me state at the outset that I am a total noob. I have recently acquired a Fuji Sundance 2000FS 26" Men's Bike, but I think something is wrong with the front. It doesn't turn like I remember (from my bike riding days some decades earlier). Shouldn't the brakes be in front of the fork?

If so, and if it should be turned around, how does one go about it? Do you remove all the gear from the handlebars, turn the fork around, and re-install the gear? Or is it easier than that?

If not, are there special tools needed to remove the gear? Any cautions to be observed? Other guidance?

Thanks for any assistance.
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Old 05-13-18, 05:05 PM
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a pic would be handy

once i saw a bike advertised on Gumtree, the forks were turned inward and the handle bar was where it should be :-D
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i'm thinking about fitting the rear side pull brakes [on a project i'm doing] on the inside of the seat stays because i want to fit tail lights on the right seat stay tube so there won't be any obstructions
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It's certainly possible that the bike was assembled with the fork backwards. If you extend a straight line along the head tube the fork is normally raked forward a bit - either by having a bend toward the bottom end of the fork or by angling the fork blades forward at the crown.

If it is backwards the difficulty of the fix will depend some on how the cables run. You may be able to fix things just by loosening things at the stem and turning the fork while keeping the handlebars fixed. But you may find that the cables get in the way and that you also need to remove some cables, then turn the fork, and reattach the cables.
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Did you consider looking at a couple other bikes to see how they are?
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A photo of a 2000 Fuji Sundance is at https://www.bicyclebluebook.com/sear....aspx?id=45480.

Brakes are in front of the fork. I don't know any bike with brakes behind the fork.
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Yes. The brakes should be on the front. Loosen the stem bolt and rotate the fork/handlebars until they face the correct direction. You may have to disconnect the front brake cable and re-route it.
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Originally Posted by Odyssey42 View Post
Let me state at the outset that I am a total noob. I have recently acquired a Fuji Sundance 2000FS 26" Men's Bike, but I think something is wrong with the front. It doesn't turn like I remember (from my bike riding days some decades earlier). Shouldn't the brakes be in front of the fork?

If so, and if it should be turned around, how does one go about it? Do you remove all the gear from the handlebars, turn the fork around, and re-install the gear? Or is it easier than that?

If not, are there special tools needed to remove the gear? Any cautions to be observed? Other guidance?

Thanks for any assistance.
You got the bike in a box? and did not turn the fork around, but left it backwards when you put the handlebars on?

You are ready to go work at walmart (or many other discount mass market big box stores)
their people have no more skills than that, and you can see them for sale there, in that condition..
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It's actually a cool looking bike in an Evil Knievel/Sunoco kind of way.
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Please excuse my absence. Got called out, so just hit "Post" on my way out the door.

Although I have been trying to include a picture (that would be an "image" right?) When I upload it, I would expect to be uploading a file, but I get an error message that says that I don't have enough points to post a URL (even though I don't think an uploaded photo is a URL). Am I doing something wrong?

BTW, no way I could get a job at Walmart. I don't ever know how to even start assembling things. I got the bike second hand, and so cannot take credit for the assembly.

It seems pretty clear from the comments that it is on backwards, so will reverse it. At which place do I disconnect the cables (i.e., where is best place to disconnect, right at the brake hand grip)?

Thanks for your patience.
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There are 2 options... Go check out youtube videos or take the bike to a local bike shop to make sure everything works.

I would never attempt to guide someone with a self proclaimed lack of any mechanical ability on how to loosen handlebars, disconnect brakes, re-assemble, and then send that person out on the road/trail.

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i'm thinking about fitting the rear side pull brakes [on a project i'm doing] on the inside of the seat stays because i want to fit tail lights on the right seat stay tube so there won't be any obstructions
This will likely change the reach from the caliper to rim, making the regular brake unusable.
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This will likely change the reach from the caliper to rim, making the regular brake unusable.
Yes. that's exactly what I was picturing and wondered if the pads could be adjusted enough to compensate. Also, if he tries it, be CERTAIN to reverse the pad holders so the closed end still faces forward.
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it does put the caliper at a non parallel angle slightly to the seat stays, but there's lots of adjustment for the pads :-)

it's the old brake type to suit 27" wheels, more than enough reach

i may not have to do that, see how those tail lights fit, was just a thought
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Please excuse my absence. Got called out, so just hit "Post" on my way out the door.

Although I have been trying to include a picture (that would be an "image" right?) When I upload it, I would expect to be uploading a file, but I get an error message that says that I don't have enough points to post a URL (even though I don't think an uploaded photo is a URL). Am I doing something wrong?

BTW, no way I could get a job at Walmart. I don't ever know how to even start assembling things. I got the bike second hand, and so cannot take credit for the assembly.

It seems pretty clear from the comments that it is on backwards, so will reverse it. At which place do I disconnect the cables (i.e., where is best place to disconnect, right at the brake hand grip)?

Tighten the stem bolts. 5Nm torque is usually adequate.

Thanks for your patience.
You shouldn't have to disconnect any cables.

Loosen the two stem bolts that pinch the stem onto the steerer tube of the fork.
Turn the fork so that it and the stem are facing forward. Just turn the fork in the direction so that the front brake cable doesn't wrap around.
Re-tighten the stem bolts. 5Nm torque should be adequate.
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You shouldn't have to disconnect any cables.

Loosen the two stem bolts that pinch the stem onto the steerer tube of the fork.
Turn the fork so that it and the stem are facing forward. Just turn the fork in the direction so that the front brake cable doesn't wrap around.
Re-tighten the stem bolts. 5Nm torque should be adequate.
Lester. Spot on! Your clear and simple language guidance was exactly what I hoped for.

All done!

P.S. I do actually know which end of a screwdriver fits in the slot of a screw, but have always found that it sped things up to "dumb down" a bit, and the appropriate responses were always much clearer.

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It's actually a cool looking bike in an Evil Knievel/Sunoco kind of way.

nearly as cool lookin' as my diamondback axis sport
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This bike is 16.5" with 26 x 1.95" tires. What is the maximum height rider (with seat all the way up) it can be reasonably ridden by?
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This bike is 16.5" with 26 x 1.95" tires. What is the maximum height rider (with seat all the way up) it can be reasonably ridden by?
Do not exceed the minimum insertion line on the seat post.
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This bike is 16.5" with 26 x 1.95" tires. What is the maximum height rider (with seat all the way up) it can be reasonably ridden by?
you can go online "bike size calculator" to find out what size suits you, height.. leg length etc

for a mountain bike it will be smaller than a roadie/hybrid


16.5" seat tube - mountain bike? small to medium size

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This bike is 16.5" with 26 x 1.95" tires. What is the maximum height rider (with seat all the way up) it can be reasonably ridden by?
7 foot 8

Oh wait, you said "reasonably".

MTB with sloping top tubes have notoriously un-standardized, un-useful measurements. That said, I'd guess 16.5" would be a "medium" intended for average height adult males, like 5'7-5'11" or so. But longer seatpost/stem can stretch that. Just look for the min-insertion/max-extension line on the seatpost, if that's showing then you don't have enough post in the frame and the seatpost might get bent. (cheap seatposts might not have that engraved line though, in which case you have no choice but to take yer chances. I'd say rule of thumb, try to have at least 1/3 of the post in the frame)
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I don't know any bike with brakes behind the fork.
My Tern Verge S11i has its front brake behind the fork. I suspect this is mainly for "style", as it makes adjustment of the brake shoes somewhat more difficult. Most of Tern's models that have rim brakes have the front brake in this position.
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My Tern Verge S11i has its front brake behind the fork. I suspect this is mainly for "style", as it makes adjustment of the brake shoes somewhat more difficult. Most of Tern's models that have rim brakes have the front brake in this position.
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The fork is backwards! The fork is backwards! Nevermind.........................That is disconcerting with the brake posts/brakes on backwards from the norm.
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That is disconcerting with the brake posts/brakes on backwards from the norm.
I've gotten used to it. But you can see the angle the brake shoes are at relative to the arms. Now that I look at the bike, it's the same for the back brake... the small diameter wheels are a big part of the reason for this geometry I think.
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