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Optimal 1x Chainline
I'm converting my 2x road bike to a 1x. Is the optimal chainline for the 1x exactly halfway between the inner and outer chainring positions on the 2x setup?
As well, I'm aware narrow-wide chainrings and chains are best for 1x setups due to chain drop, however will the 2x-designed chainrings and chain still hold ok using them as 1x for the short-term? |
Yes.. parallel to centerline, aligned Center cog of the rear cassette... its just like middle ring of the triple crank
BITD single ring (cyclocross) used a toothless ring on either side of that 1 toothed chainring... shifting aids not on that inner chainring? full height teeth? (indexing cuts the teeth shorter to shift on/off it easier) ... |
I tend to use the smaller cogs more, so I favor the chain line a bit in that direction from "normal".
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 20362407)
Yes.. parallel to centerline, aligned Center cog of the rear cassette... its just like middle ring of the triple crank
BITD single ring (cyclocross) used a toothless ring on either side of that 1 toothed chainring... shifting aids not on that inner chainring? full height teeth? (indexing cuts the teeth shorter to shift on/off it easier) ... Your second and third paragraphs went over my head unfortunately. |
Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
(Post 20362429)
I tend to use the smaller cogs more, so I favor the chain line a bit in that direction from "normal".
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Surly Stainless steel chainrings are made for being the only one.. I use a 110-38t with my IGH 26" wheel bike.
https://surlybikes.com/parts/drivetr...eel_chainrings an older pre re engineered for indexing chainring is similar 30+ years ago I built up a triple with older steel chainrings , I have been using friction bar end shifting for 40+ years.. those steel chainrings are not only long wearing... but Surly's are flat, so you can flip them over.. extending the wear life.. ... |
Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
(Post 20362429)
I tend to use the smaller cogs more, so I favor the chain line a bit in that direction from "normal".
OP, if you're riding primarily on pavement, the 2X chainring will be fine, if a little clickety-clackety in the smallest and biggest chainrings. Any issues will show themselves in big-big, when the chain will want to drop off to the inside. Do yourself a favor and pick up a narrow-wide. They're cheap from guys like USA Made and DECKAS. |
30 tooth ?this the granny bgear of a triple? its way too far inboard.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope
(Post 20362486)
This. I've never used a 1X-specific crankset, so I just run my narrow-wide in the big-ring position on 2X cranks. Never had an issue.
OP, if you're riding primarily on pavement, the 2X chainring will be fine, if a little clickety-clackety in the smallest and biggest chainrings. Any issues will show themselves in big-big, when the chain will want to drop off to the inside. Do yourself a favor and pick up a narrow-wide. They're cheap from guys like USA Made and DECKAS. Cool I will then look to get a narrow-wide as soon as I can. I've just ordered a Sunshine 11-42T cassette and Roadlink so will have a cool-as setup! I hate my front deraileur, if I can figure out how to get the cable out of the STI lever I'll be one step towards the 1x! |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 20362492)
30 tooth ?this the granny bgear of a triple? its way too far inboard.
I was thinking of putting 26 inch wheels on my road bike to get thicker tyres on, however it only gives me an extra 2mm over 650b wheels, and the 650b wheels give me 6 mm over the 700s I'm currently running. I suppose your 26 inch wheels are running on a mtb? My concern is 26 inch might be too small to be road-efficient. |
I have a Folding bike with 16" wheels it has 1 54t chainring
and a 15t cog on the 3 speed.. my 26" wheel bike is a Touring/Trekking bike ... Rohloff hub ,bike bought used 10 years ago when it was already 4 years old.. another clever bit Efneo GTRO Efneo shop 1 28t chainring with a gearbox offering 2 overdrive gears as if a 28 , 40 & 50t. the chainring thru the gears in it turns faster than the crankarms.. but physically is just 1 chainring.. |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 20362560)
I have a Folding bike with 16" wheels it has 1 54t chainring
and a 15t cog on the 3 speed.. my 26" wheel bike is a Touring/Trekking bike ... Rohloff hub ,bike bought used 10 years ago when it was already 4 years old.. another clever bit Efneo GTRO Efneo shop 1 28t chainring with a gearbox offering 2 overdrive gears as if a 28 , 40 & 50t. the chainring thru the gears in it turns faster than the crankarms.. but physically is just 1 chainring.. I've heard of Rohloff hubs, you're doing well to have one of those! How thick are your tyres on the 26 inch touring wheels? What's it like on the road, much more inefficient than larger wheels? |
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It's fine, I don't go OCD on efficiency.. there is graphs published online if you want to geek out on that.
Used, whole bike was reasonable especially since you cannot buy them in the US.. to buy new see ; https://www.koga.com/en/koga-signature someone brought it back from Europe. seller even paid shipping, NC to OR. [I've had it since 2008] |
Originally Posted by MrRider
(Post 20362628)
My bike is also being converted for trekking as well as light on-off-road bikepacking/touring, that's what all this gear and wheel conversion stuff is all about.
I've heard of Rohloff hubs, you're doing well to have one of those! How thick are your tyres on the 26 inch touring wheels? What's it like on the road, much more inefficient than larger wheels? Limiting yourself to wide steps between gears, instead of a closer spaced, more efficient gear for the specific condition. |
FWIW, because the hub has been engineered to increase by 13.6 % going up from first the gears get closer together giong down..
inverse fraction? math specialists can answer that. A-W 3 speed has a 3/4 low sand a 4/3 high.., and Rohloff is 3 speeds .. used 2 X ... |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 20362842)
It's fine, I don't go OCD on efficiency.. there is graphs published online if you want to geek out on that.
Used, whole bike was reasonable especially since you cannot buy them in the US.. to buy new see ; https://www.koga.com/en/koga-signature someone brought it back from Europe. seller even paid shipping, NC to OR. [I've had it since 2008] And it does feel good to ride, cleaner, simpler. I like it so far. And I can always put the 2x system back on if I want. |
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