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dmsc12 06-16-18 05:42 PM

Down-tube shifter conversion
 
I have a 1986 Lotus Challenger SX that I fixed up and started to ride it a lot this summer. It originally came with stem friction shifters.
I have gotten used to the shifters but I feel like downtube shifters are a lot better.
The frame does not have existing mounting points for the shifters, but I have seen on ebay used downtube shifters that are attached to collar style clamps, and you fit it over the downtube and tighten down.
I had an idea was to cut off the cable housing holders that are welded on to the downtube, sand it down, and then put the downtube shifter collar in its place. Would this be a good idea in practice?

Andrew R Stewart 06-16-18 06:17 PM

No. Any mod that is not reversible is a questionable idea. Do the casing stops interfere with the levers' placement/travel? If not then reconsider the removal of the stops. The way you position this bike in your life will undoubtedly change over time and you might want to try brifters, bar ends or sell the bike. Andy

dedhed 06-16-18 06:53 PM

just mount the band above or below the stops. You can also use new ones.

https://www.amazon.com/SHIFTER-MOUNT.../dp/B007Q4NKN2

HillRider 06-17-18 06:57 AM

I'd reconsider the downtube shifters and think about barends instead. They will let you keep (indeed require) the downtube housing stops and are more convenient than downtube shifters too.

dsbrantjr 06-17-18 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by HillRider (Post 20398332)
I'd reconsider the downtube shifters and think about barends instead. They will let you keep (indeed require) the downtube housing stops and are more convenient than downtube shifters too.

Or look at your Gevenalle brake/shifter system; you could probably use your shifters: https://www.gevenalle.com/product/audax/

bikemig 06-17-18 04:48 PM

This is the bike?

Challenger SX & Mixte SX

It's worth fixing up. Downtube shifters are the cheapest/easiest assuming that the cable stops don't get in the way of the shifters; otherwise go with bar end shifters. You're best bet for finding vintage shifters are either a bike co-op or the C&V for sale section. Just put up a WTB ad. I just bought a set of suntour ratcheting bar end shifters. Those are great shifters and they'll do the job for you without having to modify the frame.

Some of the modern bar end indexing shifters have a friction option and will work as well but they will generally be more expensive than vintage bar end shifters. Be careful because some modern indexing bar end shifters do not have a friction option.

Friction bar end shifters are still being made. The dia compe bar end shifters are very good but not cheap at $56:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4M57EG4763&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-Cycle+Parts-_-9SIA4M57EG4763&gclid=CjwKCAjwjZjZBRAZEiwAPeLSKy6z_xawqb3zBLyROpIQQ9u3sXJe6Es7DhtNEs9XzudZ9jX2fGZG8ho C_vAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

They'll do the job. I've used them extensively on a vintage touring bike that I ride and they're very good.

dmsc12 06-17-18 07:16 PM

Thankyou everyone,
I decided to change the freewheel to a 7 speed and get Shimanos 8 speed brifters. I read that the spacing is so very similiar that it will just work, but I just have to deal with a ghost gear.

Kontact 06-17-18 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by dmsc12 (Post 20399238)
Thankyou everyone,
I decided to change the freewheel to a 7 speed and get Shimanos 8 speed brifters. I read that the spacing is so very similiar that it will just work, but I just have to deal with a ghost gear.


They aren't that close. Buy some Microshift 7 speed brifters. They're cheaper and will work better.


You'll need an older style Shimano or Microshift derailleur if you don't already have one.

dmsc12 06-17-18 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by Kontact (Post 20399368)
They aren't that close. Buy some Microshift 7 speed brifters. They're cheaper and will work better.


You'll need an older style Shimano or Microshift derailleur if you don't already have one.

i ordered a Shimano 600 tricolor RD. I got the shimanos for the same price as the Microshift, but I wasn’t aware of the Microshift at the time I ordered the 8 speed.
I’ll see how it works out, but if it just isn’t working that well I’ll pick up the micros.


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