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Old 06-23-18, 07:42 PM
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Please help identify these old brakes?

Hey people, I recently bought an older bike equipped with some brakes I don't recognize. Would anyone be kind enough to identify them to satisfy my curiosity? Also: I debated posting this in Mechanics or Vintage (or...?), feel free to move if it's not in the right spot. Thanks!


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Old 06-23-18, 08:12 PM
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IRD Cantilevers
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There were a few brands of cantis stylized in this same tubular arm with wrap around clamp for the brake pad mount made in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Some of these (and I'm not saying IRD) suffered from the wrap around clamps cracking. These cracks are easy to see if you look carefully. Andy
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Hey people, I recently bought an older bike equipped with some brakes I don't recognize. Would anyone be kind enough to identify them to satisfy my curiosity? Also: I debated posting this in Mechanics or Vintage (or...?), feel free to move if it's not in the right spot. Thanks!
A lot of us hang out on both the Mechanics and C&V forums because we're old and we worked on bikes back in the day.

Like wschruba, I was thinking they were IRD cantilevers, but the details differ. In particular, the Shimano-ish brake pads lead me to believe these are Taiwanese knock-offs of the IRD design. There was (and still is) a lot of that happening in the bicycle aftermarket.

Here's some genuine IRD cantilevers: IRD 5-10 Cantilever Brake: 1990's RARE - Bike Recyclery
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Paul's ,maybe. I have a set somewhere.
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A lot of us hang out on both the Mechanics and C&V forums because we're old and we worked on bikes back in the day.

Like wschruba, I was thinking they were IRD cantilevers, but the details differ. In particular, the Shimano-ish brake pads lead me to believe these are Taiwanese knock-offs of the IRD design. There was (and still is) a lot of that happening in the bicycle aftermarket.

Here's some genuine IRD cantilevers: IRD 5-10 Cantilever Brake: 1990's RARE - Bike Recyclery
Right, they look a little like a lot of brakes (I really didn't realize how many manufacturers made a similar brake- for this kind of stuff I just go straight to Paul), which is making my search a little harder. The top of that right side is pretty distinct, I thought it would be a giveaway. Looking at those IRDs, these look cheaper, but I'm no machinist.
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Not Paul's, as it turns out. Mine have a different anchor point although the rest looks right. Don't know if Paul did a redesign that matches the OP's brake. Here's mine with an Onza.
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I'm still going to contend that the pictured brakes are Chinese knock-offs. The blue anodizing on the pad mount and the lack of finish work at the bottom of the vertical shaft point in this direction.

They probably work OK with good pads. With the pictured cheesy pads... meh.
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Here’s picture of Paul brakes from 1993 catalogue.



You can clearly see “P” near pivot, which is rectangular. I think I actually did website for them in ‘95. Apparently back when dinosaurs roamed Earth and before colour was invented.

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