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mrmb 08-01-18 06:40 PM

Using a chain that is wider than the ring and cog
 
Is there any reason NOT to do this on a fixed gear application?

Lets say you have 3/32 running gear and you use a 1/8 chain.

To take it another step further, lets say you use 3/32 running gear and you use a 3/16 chain.

Are there any problems doing this that I need to be aware of?

JohnDThompson 08-01-18 08:54 PM

For a fixed-gear or single speed application there's no problem using 1/8" chain with either or both 1/8" and/or 3/32" rings and cogs.

I'm not familiar with 3/16" chain, but with a 1/2" pitch it could probably work.

Iride01 08-02-18 10:58 AM

If you already have the stuff, try it and see. If you have to buy the stuff, buy the correct sizes.

nfmisso 08-02-18 11:32 AM

chains are sold by width and pitch. Pitch has to match. There is a bit more flexibility with width; but you have to test to make sure that it will work in your application.

TimothyH 08-02-18 12:29 PM

I ride fixed gear with 1/8" components. I believe [MENTION=20548]JohnDThompson[/MENTION] rides fixed as well.


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 20483368)
For a fixed-gear or single speed application there's no problem using 1/8" chain with either or both 1/8" and/or 3/32" rings and cogs.

This is the correct answer. It isn't a problem.

I've also never heard of 3/16 components.



-Tim-

Bill Kapaun 08-02-18 01:04 PM

I/8" chain should be more than "strong enough".
Anything larger is going to add weight and probably more friction with the likely larger side plates etc.
Sometimes too much of a good thing isn't.

well biked 08-02-18 02:52 PM

Regarding 3/16" chain, I had not heard of that either. Did a little searching on Sheldon's site, and found this:


"For the true retro fixed-gear fan, another option is 1" x 3/16" chain. This used to be common on track bikes. This requires special sprockets with only half as many teeth as standard 1/2" pitch sprockets. Serious old-time trackies used "block" chain, which had no rollers. This is no longer available. Roller chain is still sometimes findable in this size."

darkhorse75 08-02-18 07:58 PM

KMC make cheap 3/16" chains.Not sure why you would need one though as 1/8" seems to be strong enough for the best track riders in the world. KMC K910 Strong 3-16 Chain | Chain Reaction Cycles

mrmb 08-03-18 09:22 AM

3/16 chains are common in adult tricycles and bmx bikes.

They come in a 1/2in pitch.

They are readily available.

zebede 08-03-18 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by mrmb (Post 20483177)
Is there any reason NOT to do this on a fixed gear application?

Lets say you have 3/32 running gear and you use a 1/8 chain.

To take it another step further, lets say you use 3/32 running gear and you use a 3/16 chain.

Are there any problems doing this that I need to be aware of?

If you have a bash guard, chain guard or chain ring protector, they MIGHT rub with a wider chain. This happened to me on a bike with an IGH when I bought a wider chain.

nfmisso 08-03-18 03:04 PM

Read the first review here: KMC K910 Strong 3-16 Chain | Chain Reaction Cycles

Also: https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Chain-Sin.../dp/B000C1YPB2

Lots of sprockets for 415 chain.

mrmb 08-09-18 02:56 PM

UPDATE:

3/16 chains are now installed and everything turned out VERY nice.

The chains are doing a very good job of compensating for chainline being off by small amounts in 1/8 and 3/32 running gear.

Very smooth, very quiet.

If however chainline is off by more than what the width of the 3/16 chain will allow, you will know it RIGHT AWAY. In this scenario, the chain will not be forgiving at all.

mrmb 08-13-18 02:13 PM

UPDATE #2

So, installing these 3/16 chains on 3/32 running gear has made it very easy to see what needs to be done to improve chainline considering how unforgiving they are plus their width. After playing around with this a bit, and after seeing very clearly how the chainline is, I decided to do what I need to do to improve chainline without going to extremes.

I was able to get all 5 of my bikes very close to perfect chainline. They run an 1/8 chain and run very nicely.

In conclusion, I find that the 3/16 chain is a great tool to check chainline on a bike that uses 3/32 running gear. But it is not likely that one will have to run the 3/16 chain long term. The bikes ran good with the 3/16 chains, but not as good as they do now with better chainline and the 1/8 in chain.


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