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Old 08-15-18, 06:39 PM
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Whipperman Connex Link - Definitive Answer Requested!

OK, so I use a Shimano HG71 (6/7/8-speed) chain (seven sprockets and three chainrings on my GT Outpost) and I am not sure the KMC Missing Link repair link I carry in my bag will even work with it. A few people have recommended the Wipperman ConneX 6-8-Speed Stainless Steel Link as an alternative.

I just want to have the right part when I need it, and I don't want to spend days and days sweating this. Will the Wipperman ConneX link work with my Shimano chain? And is the 6-8 version correct for my bike?

Some say the KMC I already overpaid for will work fine, but I want something for that roadside chain repair I expect somewhere in my future. The KMC needs a tool; the ConneX apparently does not. I might keep the KMC for re-linking the chain after cleaning and pick up a ConneX for my road repair kit. Whaddya think?
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I was briefly thinking of doing the same for my 11-speed chain, but was put off by some anecdotal reports of people having the thing come undone. The one good thing about needing a tool to take it apart is that you need a tool to take it apart.

I decided I could always use a chain tool to take a link out and re-splice the chain, which would get me home, even if it was a couple of links too short. I would want to replace a chain if it became problematic on a ride. Having said that, I haven't had a chain go out on me yet, since I started maintaining my bike pro-actively and changing the chain at the first sign of wear.
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
...The one good thing about needing a tool to take it apart is that you need a tool to take it apart....
That's one of the best replies to any question I have ever seen! It's also the first negative comment I've read about the Whipperman ConneX, so thanks.

Personally, the last time I had a chain fail on me was in the late 1990's (on the same bike I ride now), but under harsh mountain biking conditions. I don't ever think about a chain failing when I'm out on an overnight road ride, but that's mostly because, until recently, I assumed either my skill with a chain tool or the KMC link I'd invested in would get me out of any jam. I suppose that now that I only ride roads and bikeways, and now that I'm a grown-up and I keep my bike in better running condition, I am much more likely to have to re-link my chains when I am servicing them in the garage, which makes the KMC just fine.

Still wanna hear what people have to say, though. Right now, there's nine dollars just burning a hole in my pocket and I need to buy something to help me forget that the world is coming to an end.
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I'm also interested (still). I just bought my first chain with a quick-link (a new Shimano XTR/Dura Ace + Shimano's quick link 11-speed) and it was a total ordeal getting it on, even with the Park tool. My main fear is that link will break and I will crash and burn.
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I've been using Wippermann chains with the Connex link on my road bike (3 x 9) for 16 years with no problems. When the chain is replaced, I've kept the Connex link as a spare or for an emergency repair but have never used it. For about the same length of time I've used SRAM chains with the Powerlink on my mountain bike (3 x 8). Likewise no problems.
I just installed a Powerlink on my wife's bike's original Shimano chain (3 x 7). I'm not expecting trouble. AFAIK, as long as the width of the chain and link are the same (same "speed" in other words) different brands can be mixed and matched.
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I used Wipperman Connex on my 10 speed Campagnolo chains for years. I had zero problems. They install and remove very easily, but never come off accidentally.

For a broken chain on a ride, you still need a chain tool to push out a pin at the mangled link.

The KMC Missing Link or Sram powerlink doesn't need a link tool to install. The tool is for removing the quick link from your chain. To install, use your fingers to assemble it, then with the link on the top side of the chain, press down on the pedals while holding the brakes to snap it in place.

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The Shimano one is supposedly the same thing. I just only managed to do it with the tool. I couldn't come close without it. That is why I am interested in the Wipperman link (see, we eventually got this back to the OP).
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I prefer using a quick link on any chain. Makes things much easier to remove the chain and clean it off the bike when things get especially "grungy". I work in the bike industry as a mechanic and I've definitely seen more failed chain pin installs as opposed to quick links as a methodof joining indexed multi speed chains together. KMC, SRAM, Whipperman and now even Shimano all offer decent quick links. I made a video on how to remove and install in the proper orientation about a year ago if anyone is interested...


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Originally Posted by Papa Tom View Post
OK, so I use a Shimano HG71 (6/7/8-speed) chain (seven sprockets and three chainrings on my GT Outpost) and I am not sure the KMC Missing Link repair link I carry in my bag will even work with it. A few people have recommended the Wipperman ConneX 6-8-Speed Stainless Steel Link as an alternative.

I just want to have the right part when I need it, and I don't want to spend days and days sweating this. Will the Wipperman ConneX link work with my Shimano chain? And is the 6-8 version correct for my bike?

Some say the KMC I already overpaid for will work fine, but I want something for that roadside chain repair I expect somewhere in my future. The KMC needs a tool; the ConneX apparently does not. I might keep the KMC for re-linking the chain after cleaning and pick up a ConneX for my road repair kit. Whaddya think?
Kmc does not require a tool. You must patiently and carefully press the sides of the link closely together as you angle the link and press the plates to release them from the groove that retains then. Wipperman disconnects far easier, but you can learn the no tool kmc technique. Wipperman links are much more expensive, generally.
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Originally Posted by rm -rf View Post
I used Wipperman Connex on my 10 speed Campagnolo chains for years. I had zero problems. They install and remove very easily, but never come off accidentally.

For a broken chain on a ride, you still need a chain tool to push out a pin at the mangled link.
I find it helpful to keep the cut-off links from sizing the chain with a couple of quick links and a chain tool, so mangled links can be cut out and replaced, leaving the chain its original length.
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OK, so I use a Shimano HG71 (6/7/8-speed) chain (seven sprockets and three chainrings on my GT Outpost) and I am not sure the KMC Missing Link repair link I carry in my bag will even work with it.
Check whether your current link is 7.3 mm wide. Once I was caught out by having a 7.1 mm wide KMC link when my chain was 7.3 mm wide. From what I can see from a Google search, the HG71 chain is 7.3 mm. I used to carry both sizes back in the day, just in case someone I was with snapped a chain.
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Originally Posted by JonathanGennick View Post
Check whether your current link is 7.3 mm wide. Once I was caught out by having a 7.1 mm wide KMC link when my chain was 7.3 mm wide. From what I can see from a Google search, the HG71 chain is 7.3 mm. I used to carry both sizes back in the day, just in case someone I was with snapped a chain.
Thanks for that advice. I will check. Why can't things just be simple?
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I question the benefit of carrying around things you have not had any experience with. Though simple in design, at the time of your trouble, will you be able to install it? And once installed, then as you are asking, will it work?. So why not just put one on now and see first hand what it will work like?

I see people struggle with simple things like frame pumps or CO2 inflators when they use them for a roadside repair for their first time. So practicing at home to get some experience will make the roadside efforts more successful instead of a futile act.
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Whipperman answered a question I asked them directly , on company website contact link,

A few hears ago.. that would be very definitave, go to the source.
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I question the benefit of carrying around things you have not had any experience with. .....
Good point, The KMC link was something I bought and never really paid much attention to, as I figured it was not likely to be used in an emergency, but rather during a leisurely servicing of my chain. For this reason, i never even bothered to confirm whether it can be re-used, and to this day, my assumption is that it's a single-use item. For this reason, I have never done a trial run with it.
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Good point, The KMC link was something I bought and never really paid much attention to, as I figured it was not likely to be used in an emergency, but rather during a leisurely servicing of my chain. For this reason, i never even bothered to confirm whether it can be re-used, and to this day, my assumption is that it's a single-use item. For this reason, I have never done a trial run with it.
When I discovered quick links, I bought them for my Shimano chains and put them on right away. That meant breaking perfectly good chains, but the convenience of a link was too much to ignore. Then I packed a spare link in my backpack. Now I just always buy KMC chains to begin with, so a link is a given. As far as single use goes, my thinking on that is for the life of the chain, and I'll otherwise disconnect and reconnect as often as I like.
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I am now using Wippermann chains and Connex links on every bike in my stable, with the sole exception of a 1x11 MTB. Being able to remove the link easily, without a tool, is great. I have never had one come apart except when I was removing it. Unless the link actually fails, I don't see how it could come loose accidentally with any tension on the chain. It does need to be installed properly per the directions, and they have shifted flawlessly on my 10s Campy drivetrains. I can't speak to 11s, don't have any.
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I don't think anyone has answered this one: Will the KMC Missing Link work on my Shimano chain? I forgot to mention that, when I bought the link, I was using a KMC chain, but soon replaced it with a Shimano because of some shifting issues.
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I don't think anyone has answered this one: Will the KMC Missing Link work on my Shimano chain?
Assuming you buy the proper matching "speed" (9, 10, whatever), yes it will work fine.
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Yes, I am sure I have the matching link for a 7-speed chain. Thanks!
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The KMC needs a tool; the ConneX apparently does not. I might keep the KMC for re-linking the chain after cleaning and pick up a ConneX for my road repair kit. Whaddya think?
You don't need a tool to install the quicklink, just to remove it. (It can sometimes be done without but it's a hassle). If it doesn't snap into place right away, I'll position it on the chain ring and step on the pedal to put enough tension on the chain to snap it into place.

For roadside repairs, you'll need a chain tool but you don't need to worry about removing the quick link (if there's already one on the chain). Just break the chain somewhere else and use the quick link that's in your tool bag. If the chain itself has actually broken, just remove the the broken link and then use the quick link.

I've never actually had a chain break or a quick link fail on the road. (Happened on an old crappy mountain bike once when I bashed a rock. Chain was long overdue anyway). However, I've had derailleurs break, which required me to shorten the chain into an emergency single speed to get home. In that case, I just break the chain somewhere else other than the quick link, shorten it, and use the spare quick link in my tool kit.

HOWEVER, if you really want to be able to remove a quick link on the road -- https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...ts/pack-pliers These are quick link pliers, a tire lever, a valve core remover all in one, plus they hold spare quick links.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear from the beginning that I know I don't need to remove the Quicklink in the event of a road emergency. I just figured that a tool would be necessary to install it. I guess not.

So thank you all for answering my questions. I guess I don't need a Whipperman ConneX. I will just hold on to my KMC link and expect that my chain will never break while I am on the road, just as it hasn't in forty years of riding!
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No Tool needed for quick-link removal.

No tool is needed to remove quick links, even freshly installed brand new ones! The picture below should clearly illustrate the method, but I'll try explaining also.

Basically, using the chainring as a base to rest one of the quick link pins, you tap the side plate that is attached to the other pin of the quick link, and the link will slide apart!

As shown in the pic, get a little slack in the chain so the quick link can be posistioned somewhat vertically over a "valley", ie: between two teeth, of the chainring. Now, the easier way (opposite as shown in the pic below), is to have the "outer" slot (the side facing you) at the bottom of the link, and it's pin resting on the chainring. But either way is possible. Anyway, using a palm sized rock, or a stick, or the end of a frame-pump, or whatever's handy, tap JUST THE SIDE WITH THE UPPER PIN sharply. It may take a few taps to hit ONLY the correct side plate, but otherwise it should open rather easily.


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