Anyone know this (cheap) wheel?
08-27-18, 12:55 PM
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Anyone know this (cheap) wheel?
I need to replace the original rear wheel on my '73 Schwinn World Voyageur, and I want to switch to a cassette hub for better durability. I called my LBS and they found a wheel that they said had a shimano cassette hub, and 27" CR-18 rim. I'm guessing it's this one:
https://www.modernbike.com/quality-w...ndustry-silver
I know the CR-18 is a fine, durable, rim. Do you know anything about the Shimano hub that comes with it? Is it an actual 7 speed freehub, or is it a 8/9/10 speed freehub with spacer? Reason I'm asking is I need to buy a cassette, too. LBS had limited choices for 7 speed, but there are a few more choices available from online retailers. Wondering if I'm limited to 7 speeds with this wheel or if I could use an 8 or 9 speed. Is it a decent quality hub? I plan to use it mostly for commuting with an occasional long ride. I put a couple thousand miles a year on my bike.
https://www.modernbike.com/quality-w...ndustry-silver
I know the CR-18 is a fine, durable, rim. Do you know anything about the Shimano hub that comes with it? Is it an actual 7 speed freehub, or is it a 8/9/10 speed freehub with spacer? Reason I'm asking is I need to buy a cassette, too. LBS had limited choices for 7 speed, but there are a few more choices available from online retailers. Wondering if I'm limited to 7 speeds with this wheel or if I could use an 8 or 9 speed. Is it a decent quality hub? I plan to use it mostly for commuting with an occasional long ride. I put a couple thousand miles a year on my bike.
08-27-18, 01:25 PM
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Well it says 7 speed but it is 130mm which would suggest more than 7 speed. But if the specs say 7 speed assume it is.
What shifters are you using?
New chain would also be a good idea.
What shifters are you using?
New chain would also be a good idea.
08-27-18, 01:28 PM
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The ad says it is a 7 speed cassette. I imagine that if it was an 8,9,10 speed cassette body, it would say it. You’ll have to check it out when you get it, maybe take it down to the LBS for their opinion or use a metric caliper or metric ruler to check the height of the freehub body.
If it is for a 6/7 speed spaced frame then the 7 speed wheel should have 126mm spacing and should be a perfect fit. I don’t like the idea of cold setting older frames, especially ones that might be collectible. eBay usually is a great place to get 7 speed hyperglide (HG) cassettes. New HG90’S seem to have shot up in price due to no longer being produced. I haven’t really checked for current brands that might stock 7 speed HG cassettes, but I imagine you should be able to find a SRAM or Shimano for less than $40.
edit - after seeing post #2 and going back to the original ad, I can see where the axle spacing is 130mm. You could try sliding it in to see if it fits. If it doesn’t, you could remove spacers from the hub and shorten the axle & redish the wheel - that route. Or, ...I imagine that on this forum many people will tell you to cold set the frame out to 130mm and then re-align the dropouts.
An alternative to this wheel would be to search for a vintage 126mm HG cassette hub wheel such as a Shimano 1055.
If it is for a 6/7 speed spaced frame then the 7 speed wheel should have 126mm spacing and should be a perfect fit. I don’t like the idea of cold setting older frames, especially ones that might be collectible. eBay usually is a great place to get 7 speed hyperglide (HG) cassettes. New HG90’S seem to have shot up in price due to no longer being produced. I haven’t really checked for current brands that might stock 7 speed HG cassettes, but I imagine you should be able to find a SRAM or Shimano for less than $40.
edit - after seeing post #2 and going back to the original ad, I can see where the axle spacing is 130mm. You could try sliding it in to see if it fits. If it doesn’t, you could remove spacers from the hub and shorten the axle & redish the wheel - that route. Or, ...I imagine that on this forum many people will tell you to cold set the frame out to 130mm and then re-align the dropouts.
An alternative to this wheel would be to search for a vintage 126mm HG cassette hub wheel such as a Shimano 1055.
Last edited by masi61; 08-27-18 at 01:36 PM.
08-27-18, 01:35 PM
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I have shimano 7 speed downtube shifters. Still have the original RD so I just use them in friction mode.
I just bought a new chain about 400 miles ago. Do you think I need a new one again?
08-27-18, 01:42 PM
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Yeah chain should be fine.
Carry on as you are and figure it out when you get the wheel. Nothing there that can't be overcome quite easily.
Should be a perfectly durable wheel.
Carry on as you are and figure it out when you get the wheel. Nothing there that can't be overcome quite easily.
Should be a perfectly durable wheel.
08-27-18, 01:45 PM
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I need to replace the original rear wheel on my '73 Schwinn World Voyageur, and I want to switch to a cassette hub for better durability. I called my LBS and they found a wheel that they said had a shimano cassette hub, and 27" CR-18 rim. I'm guessing it's this one:
https://www.modernbike.com/quality-w...ndustry-silver
I know the CR-18 is a fine, durable, rim. Do you know anything about the Shimano hub that comes with it? Is it an actual 7 speed freehub, or is it a 8/9/10 speed freehub with spacer? Reason I'm asking is I need to buy a cassette, too. LBS had limited choices for 7 speed, but there are a few more choices available from online retailers. Wondering if I'm limited to 7 speeds with this wheel or if I could use an 8 or 9 speed. Is it a decent quality hub? I plan to use it mostly for commuting with an occasional long ride. I put a couple thousand miles a year on my bike.
https://www.modernbike.com/quality-w...ndustry-silver
I know the CR-18 is a fine, durable, rim. Do you know anything about the Shimano hub that comes with it? Is it an actual 7 speed freehub, or is it a 8/9/10 speed freehub with spacer? Reason I'm asking is I need to buy a cassette, too. LBS had limited choices for 7 speed, but there are a few more choices available from online retailers. Wondering if I'm limited to 7 speeds with this wheel or if I could use an 8 or 9 speed. Is it a decent quality hub? I plan to use it mostly for commuting with an occasional long ride. I put a couple thousand miles a year on my bike.
I emailed Modern Bike with your questions and am monitoring my email account for their response. I'll post it here immediately.
08-27-18, 01:52 PM
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The ad says it is a 7 speed cassette. I imagine that if it was an 8,9,10 speed cassette body, it would say it. You’ll have to check it out when you get it, maybe take it down to the LBS for their opinion or use a metric caliper or metric ruler to check the height of the freehub body.
I had the LBS order one for me. It should arrive soon. I'll be able to check it out at the shop before I buy it.
If it is for a 6/7 speed spaced frame then the 7 speed wheel should have 126mm spacing and should be a perfect fit. I don’t like the idea of cold setting older frames, especially ones that might be collectible. eBay usually is a great place to get 7 speed hyperglide (HG) cassettes. New HG90’S seem to have shot up in price due to no longer being produced. I haven’t really checked for current brands that might stock 7 speed HG cassettes, but I imagine you should be able to find a SRAM or Shimano for less than $40.
edit - after seeing post #2 and going back to the original ad, I can see where the axle spacing is 130mm. You could try sliding it in to see if it fits. If it doesn’t, you could remove spacers from the hub and shorten the axle & redish the wheel - that route. Or, ...I imagine that on this forum many people will tell you to cold set the frame out to 130mm and then re-align the dropouts.
An alternative to this wheel would be to search for a vintage 126mm HG cassette hub wheel such as a Shimano 1055.
edit - after seeing post #2 and going back to the original ad, I can see where the axle spacing is 130mm. You could try sliding it in to see if it fits. If it doesn’t, you could remove spacers from the hub and shorten the axle & redish the wheel - that route. Or, ...I imagine that on this forum many people will tell you to cold set the frame out to 130mm and then re-align the dropouts.
An alternative to this wheel would be to search for a vintage 126mm HG cassette hub wheel such as a Shimano 1055.
08-27-18, 01:53 PM
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08-27-18, 01:54 PM
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Bike Shop supplying wholesale distributors , have the same machines a bike factory would use,
to assemble and tension a lot of wheels quickly,
comprised of parts at their costs, so can supply a built wheel
for less than the parts cost, if all bought at retail..
I assume the site is a retailer selling those wheels from one of their supplying distributors.
..
to assemble and tension a lot of wheels quickly,
comprised of parts at their costs, so can supply a built wheel
for less than the parts cost, if all bought at retail..
I assume the site is a retailer selling those wheels from one of their supplying distributors.
..
08-27-18, 02:04 PM
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Bike Shop supplying wholesale distributors , have the same machines a bike factory would use,
to assemble and tension a lot of wheels quickly,
comprised of parts at their costs, so can supply a built wheel
for less than the parts cost, if all bought at retail..
I assume the site is a retailer selling those wheels from one of their supplying distributors.
..
to assemble and tension a lot of wheels quickly,
comprised of parts at their costs, so can supply a built wheel
for less than the parts cost, if all bought at retail..
I assume the site is a retailer selling those wheels from one of their supplying distributors.
..
08-27-18, 02:23 PM
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Cyclone and J&B plus QBP, are accounts my Local carries
& Trek ships replacement wheels , that get sold out from under new bikes
on the floor ,
that get sold to bike tourists who came in with their wheel .. broken.
....
& Trek ships replacement wheels , that get sold out from under new bikes
on the floor ,
that get sold to bike tourists who came in with their wheel .. broken.
....
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The picture isn't great, but it looks like it might very well have a 7-speed freehub, with extra spacers on the NDS to bring the OLD up to 130mm. Used to be a common setup to make strong MTB wheels.
Good on them for offering this kind of wheel, because it will be much stronger than one with a freewheel hub, and 7-speed is cheap and durable.
Good on them for offering this kind of wheel, because it will be much stronger than one with a freewheel hub, and 7-speed is cheap and durable.
08-29-18, 07:19 AM
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Got the new wheel last night and an HG200 12-32 cassette. It is the wheel from QBP. It seems good. The bearing was a little tight and the grease seemed like weak stuff and not a lot of it. I repacked it with polylube and adjusted it. It's easy enough to get it in and out of the dropouts. I don't think I'll have to cold set the frame. I'm back on the road for a little under $100. Seems like a pretty good deal. Now we'll see how long it lasts.
