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Old 07-25-19, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bike Jedi
So is this the stuff Fluid Film you all decided was one of the better ones?

https://www.amazon.com/Lubricant-Cor...XZWP54AKKD49QR
That's it. Good stuff. I'm a convert now, myself.
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I'm on the Fluid Film train too. Good stuff.

Regarding the real world importance of treating the tubes, on several occasions I've worked on bikes that had significant water accumulation in the bottom bracket. Smelled BAD. The water was there for some time. No drain hole (why?). Anyway, some protection in the tubes is a good thing.
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Old 07-25-19, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Nessism
I'm on the Fluid Film train too. Good stuff.

Regarding the real world importance of treating the tubes, on several occasions I've worked on bikes that had significant water accumulation in the bottom bracket. Smelled BAD. The water was there for some time. No drain hole (why?). Anyway, some protection in the tubes is a good thing.
Spot on. I think that treating the tubes is a fundamental practice, especially when you get a new bike. Older frames can benefit from a good "brush and flush" as well. I have a bouquet of rods with various brushes, abrasives, and mops attached to the ends with express purpose to clean out as much the insides of the tubes as I can. I recently acquired a Surly Disc Trucker, which was used as a commuter in Boston for a couple years. It was well-ridden, and neglected. It spent a lot of time on the rack of the owner's car. Never have I seen a bike so grimy and filthy. The whole bike had a swarthy dingy film all over it. A nice bath cleaned it up proper, but the insides were orangey-rusty-gross, but not to the point of being crusty. Now the tubes have been brushed and bathed in Fluid Film.
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Old 07-25-19, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by WizardOfBoz
FWIW, The "WD" in WD40 stands for "Water Displacer". It's good for getting water out of places by displacement.


There's a review of many corrosion/rust inhibitors that's pretty interesting here: https://www.thehulltruth.com/sportfi...or-sprays.html


At least from that article, LPS3 is likely longer-lasting than WD40.

Further, FWIW- The "40" in WD-40 reputedly represents being his 40th attempt to develop the formula.


We used CRC 6-66 bought in a gallon can, and poured into a complimentary spray bottle that came taped to the can). We sprayed it on just about everything, and it worked well for me, through the road salt of Vermont and the sea salt of Cape Cod. I'm not sure how different it was from WD-40, but coming at corrosion from mentors in a marine machine shop, that was our go-to.
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What would be cool is some kind of applicator nozzle that sprays the product out in a wide umbrella-shape, kind of like a fire sprinkler. It would be attached at the end of a hose that you could snake down any tube, then slowly draw it out as the spray fans out and coats all the way around evenly. I don't know if a regular spray can would supply enough pressure though. Might need some kind of compressor setup (e.g. an airbrush system). I wonder if the automotive or aviation markets have anything like this. It's kind of hard to shake a Cessna around to distribute the LPS-3.
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I have a question. Having built several bikes from the frame up, I have used JP frame saver on all but one. The one build (Soma Wolverine) I didn't use anything. I don't live near salt water but I ride in muddy Iowa gravel and sometimes rain. My gravel bikes get sloppy and recently on 2 bikes I found water in the BB shell on a good cleaning. I have since drilled small holes to let moisture drain out. So I am getting my Soma Wolverine warrantied and a new frame (V4) is on the way. Mary at Merry Sales told me that Frame saver won't hurt but their tubing is treated on the inside to prevent rust (which I have also confirmed on a few retailers websites in the frame description and specs). I am not sure if this is a new process or one they have been using for years. So would I benefit much if the new frame is supposedly somehow treated? I am on the fence about the frame saver right now as I gear up for my parts transfer.
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Originally Posted by trail_monkey
Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I have a question. Having built several bikes from the frame up, I have used JP frame saver on all but one. The one build (Soma Wolverine) I didn't use anything. I don't live near salt water but I ride in muddy Iowa gravel and sometimes rain. My gravel bikes get sloppy and recently on 2 bikes I found water in the BB shell on a good cleaning. I have since drilled small holes to let moisture drain out. So I am getting my Soma Wolverine warrantied and a new frame (V4) is on the way. Mary at Merry Sales told me that Frame saver won't hurt but their tubing is treated on the inside to prevent rust (which I have also confirmed on a few retailers websites in the frame description and specs). I am not sure if this is a new process or one they have been using for years. So would I benefit much if the new frame is supposedly somehow treated? I am on the fence about the frame saver right now as I gear up for my parts transfer.
I mean, it won't hurt it. Whatever treatment that they have at the factory is going to be better than what you can apply, short of dunking the frame into a vat of Frame Saver. I would just drill the same BB drainage holes that you did before and call it good. Spray some Frame Saver in a couple years.
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Originally Posted by Ferrouscious
I mean, it won't hurt it. Whatever treatment that they have at the factory is going to be better than what you can apply, short of dunking the frame into a vat of Frame Saver. I would just drill the same BB drainage holes that you did before and call it good. Spray some Frame Saver in a couple years.
Yeah that might be a good idea. I used to think framesaver stuck inside for the life of the frame. but now I read that it only lasts a few years and has to be reapplied. That was a bummer to hear.
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