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lhill

11-13-18 01:35 PM

Schwalbe Marathon Supreme

There are 2 types of the Marathon Supreme tires listed on Schwalbe’s website for 700x40 tires, MicroSkin/TL Easy and V-guard. In the V-guard type description there is no mention of tubeless usage. I’ve emailed Schwalbe twice asking if a V-guard tire can be used tubeless, but they have never responded. So, anyone know if I could change my V-guard tires to tubeless at some point? Thanks for your help!

TallRider

11-13-18 04:42 PM

Isn't the Marathon a bombproof tire with a really stiff/rigid ride? I don't see the point of running it tubeless.

tyrion

11-13-18 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TallRider (Post 20661916)

Isn't the Marathon a bombproof tire with a really stiff/rigid ride? I don't see the point of running it tubeless.

The Marathon Supreme is one of the lightest in the Marathon series. A tubeless 40mm Supreme might be lighter than a 38mm Compass Barlow Pass w/tube (but the Compass will probably be smoother and faster).

Plus tubeless has advantages other than lightness and smooth ride.

sweeks

11-14-18 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TallRider (Post 20661916)

Isn't the Marathon a bombproof tire with a really stiff/rigid ride? I don't see the point of running it tubeless.

That's the "Marathon Plus". Rides fine with the right tire pressure, and as close to flat-proof as I've seen. A great commuting tire.

Shimagnolo

11-14-18 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TallRider (Post 20661916)

Isn't the Marathon a bombproof tire with a really stiff/rigid ride? I don't see the point of running it tubeless.

No.
"Marathon" is a product line, not a single product.
And the Supreme is very different from the others.
When it was introduced, Schwalbe made a point in the marketing that it was using the same soft compound as their racing tires. (Haven't heard that from them more recently, so perhaps the racing tires moved on to other compounds.)

I've been using 32mm Supremes for years on my steel touring/winter bike.
They have excellent grip in the wet, and, (amazing), also on snow!
The only thing they have ever lost grip on is glare ice.

3alarmer

11-14-18 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lhill (Post 20661633)

I’ve emailed Schwalbe twice asking if a V-guard tire can be used tubeless, but they have never responded.

...are you contacting Schwalbe North America link ?
I have always found them to be very responsive and helpful.

I even waranteed a badly laid up marathon to them once, using only photos of the defect.

bogydave

11-14-18 09:37 PM

I’m running the surpreme tubless , 700x35c
60psi front 70 rear. (Palm Springs ca, desert rides.)
so far am liking them, but not much to compare too.
Not yet worn out a set of tires, to try another brand.

lhill

11-15-18 05:26 AM

Thank you all for your info. Yesterday I called Schwalbe Customer Support and they confirmed that the Supreme V-Guard con not be mounted tubless, must have the MicroSkin/TL Easy for tubeless. Nest time. Thanks again!

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