Velo Orange Tall Stack Stem - Steering Tube Gap?
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Velo Orange Tall Stack Stem - Steering Tube Gap?
Is a gap of 12-13mm between the aluminum steering tube and the top of the stem okay when using this Velo Orange Tall Stack Stem? The stem clamps the steering tube down low (see below), but might there be any other issues or considerations?
(Velo Orange's pic, not mine.)
(Velo Orange's pic, not mine.)
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From their webpage:
Note: that there is a minimum-insertion line marked inside the stem, about 15mm below the top. Not recommended for carbon steerer tubes.
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Thank you kind sir! And sorry I didn't have faith in the vendor. Very few have this level of detail about their product, so it speaks well to VO as a company.
May your Spring come early. [Notices you're in San Diego]: Very, very early!
If you're ever up in North SD County, I live in Carlsbad and will probably be riding this bike with the VO Tall Stack Stem.
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I’m curious about the answer as well. I have a Chinese made titanium 1” stem that uses the same tall design with a single bolt down low. The look you are getting with the knurled spacers and that stem is cool.
If I understand your question correctly (or reading into it a little) I might think that you are concerned that the stem is not going to be secured tightly enough or reliably enough with that one bolt and that having a lower installation without the 2 spacers shown might be stronger?
I think you’re going to have to try it and hope it stays put. Does the single bolt give a torque spec?
Also, with any threadless stem it is a good idea to get a really good expansion plug. The longer the better. I have heard that Specialized makes a good one. Deda also makes a good one. When tightening the expansion plug in the stem I use a 3/8” T-bar socket with the correct size Allen bit then use both hands to tighten quite snug. I don’t use a torque wrench, but just go by feel. I also grease the bolt threads and the interior “ramps” on the expansion plug. Once it is tight you can then pre-load the stem with the top cap bolt. This bolt should also be greased. Again, I use my T-bar to tighten it with 2 hands and tighten the pre-load on the head cap bolt until the steering side to side becomes slightly tight.
PS - I guess you can disregard most of what I am saying here as the expansion plug info pertains to the use of a carbon steerer. Or don’t disregard it since the same principals would apply for if you are instead using a star nut in a steel steer tube.
If I understand your question correctly (or reading into it a little) I might think that you are concerned that the stem is not going to be secured tightly enough or reliably enough with that one bolt and that having a lower installation without the 2 spacers shown might be stronger?
I think you’re going to have to try it and hope it stays put. Does the single bolt give a torque spec?
Also, with any threadless stem it is a good idea to get a really good expansion plug. The longer the better. I have heard that Specialized makes a good one. Deda also makes a good one. When tightening the expansion plug in the stem I use a 3/8” T-bar socket with the correct size Allen bit then use both hands to tighten quite snug. I don’t use a torque wrench, but just go by feel. I also grease the bolt threads and the interior “ramps” on the expansion plug. Once it is tight you can then pre-load the stem with the top cap bolt. This bolt should also be greased. Again, I use my T-bar to tighten it with 2 hands and tighten the pre-load on the head cap bolt until the steering side to side becomes slightly tight.
PS - I guess you can disregard most of what I am saying here as the expansion plug info pertains to the use of a carbon steerer. Or don’t disregard it since the same principals would apply for if you are instead using a star nut in a steel steer tube.
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2 alternatives cut off steerer to settle stems bottom edge down on the headset directly
Or, you could also line the aluminum steerer tube with steel * tubing, for added strength.. Epoxy bonded ,
or carbon tube.. since you have a doggy limo not a race bike application...
Or, you could also line the aluminum steerer tube with steel * tubing, for added strength.. Epoxy bonded ,
or carbon tube.. since you have a doggy limo not a race bike application...
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It's a great looking stem. Between the snug fit on the steerer shaft, the base-mounted bolt, the solid plunger bolt, and the overall robust design, I feel pretty confident about this stem.
I was hoping to remove the spacer, but don't want it badly enough to cut my metal steerer shaft.
Still waiting on the Alfine chainring (which has been sitting in the LA USPS hub for the last 8 days) and looking forward to seeing how it feels when done.
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Aluminum probably not the best fork steerer tube choice for such a utility application ,, but neither you or I made that choice..
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It's probably steel then. I only said "aluminum" initially to specify that it wasn't carbon.
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