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Old 03-09-19, 07:27 PM
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Best Tires For Vintage Nishiki

Hello, I was just wondering what type of tire I should put on my 1982 Nishiki Olympic 12 I just bought. I have debated putting on some gum wall tires, but I'm not sure what type of tire will be good since I will be commuting with the bike a lot. Thanks!
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It looks like it might use the not so common 27" tires. You should look for a dependable tire that fits the bicycle.
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I looked on the internet and found some kenda gum wall tires for $14 each in 27x1 1/4 size. Is the brand kenda ok for tires?
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I have had good luck with Kenda's tires, but not so good luck with their tubes. My 1987 Free Spirit Pinnacle has 27x1 1/4" tires and I ran a Kenda tire for a while... worked fine. I have Kenda tires on my other bike and no problems whatsoever.

I also have a basic Bell Kevlar and Vittoria Zaffiro tires on the Pinnacle right now... both work fine.
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Cool! Thanks for the help
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I've had decent luck with Kendas. My favorite 27" tires, though, were Panaracer Pasela. You should still be able to find some out there!
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Another recommendation for the Panaracer Paselas. They look great on a vintage bike. I can't say that they are my all time favorite, but I do have Panaracers on 4 of my bikes. Great quality for reasonable cost.
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I get blowouts where I live. It's because of all the crap falling off trucks. And, rampant construction everywhere. Everybody is moving to Florida. I've been enjoying my Michelin PROTEK type tires. They seem to be holding up OK so far. And, they make them in the 27" size. Not too expensive so far. Thinking about getting a couple extra.
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I also love Paselas in 1-1/4 width, or its close cousin the Swift Sand Canyon tire in 1-3/8. If I need flat resistance I use Continental Gatorskin tires.

Note: the Pasela and Swift tires offer the best ride. The Gatorskins are just ok. I would not enjoy the Kendas at all.
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Originally Posted by Dominic P. View Post
I looked on the internet and found some kenda gum wall tires for $14 each in 27x1 1/4 size. Is the brand kenda ok for tires?
They're not the best.
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Old 03-09-19, 10:45 PM
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Ok , its nothing to get fussy about , maybe 27" panasonics will float your boat.
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On my old Fuji with Weinmann concave rims (non-hook bead), Kenda 27x 1 1/8s blew off at 70 lbs. Finally found some Bontragers that held to 80, so I stopped.

The old handmade Clement 27x1 clinchers always rode at 85-90 without issues. Paselas held until 85 when I stopped, and never had a blowout. Way nicer than the Kendas and Bontragers.

Actually finding a decent 27" tire locally was the push that made me buy a new bike with 700C (good story - I am sticking with it!). I figured I flogged the Fuji for 43 years, so it was time for a rest.. I am now a Compass/Rene Herse (plus Conti GP-4000SII) devotee..
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What are you trying to accomplish?

If you are going for a period appropriate look, I'd suggest asking on "Classic and Vintage". I'm thinking that by 1982 gunwale tires may have become passe'.
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Continental still makes a couple.

Also Vittoria Zaffiro but it’s a much thicker and less balloony tire than the Pasela.

As for the Kendas being “bad,” well, none of these are high end tires. That ship sailed thirty years ago.

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I also love Paselas in 1-1/4 width, or its close cousin the Swift Sand Canyon tire in 1-3/8. If I need flat resistance I use Continental Gatorskin tires.

Note: the Pasela and Swift tires offer the best ride. The Gatorskins are just ok. I would not enjoy the Kendas at all.
Do you know the actual width of the Sand Canyons? Are they really 1 3/8" wide? Also, are they any more supple than the Paselas?
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Paselas are the best value.

Kendas are like Kmart. They suck.
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Originally Posted by palincss View Post
Do you know the actual width of the Sand Canyons? Are they really 1 3/8" wide? Also, are they any more supple than the Paselas?
The actual width depends on the rims you use them with. If the rims are narrow, the actual width of the tire is narrowed as well. But I can say that the Sand Canyons are a bit wider than the 1-1/4 inch Paselas on the same rim. As for suppleness, they seem to be about the same. They are a good tire; not up to the standards of Compass but still a nice, comfortable, easy-rolling tire.
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you don't have to go gumwall or tanwall or skinwall if you don't want to, but if maintaining that vintage look is important then do it. Continental makes a Gatroskin Duraskin and a Gator Hardshell tire, both have a dark brown partial sidewall; Panaracer Pasela ProTite folding tire is a great tire and it has a skinwall sidewall that looks a lot like a gumwall, this tire is very robust for commuting on (as is the Gator Hardshell). Any of those above tires would be great for your bike, and they would be very robust for commuting with.
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Another recommendation for the Panaracer Paselas. They look great on a vintage bike. I can't say that they are my all time favorite, but I do have Panaracers on 4 of my bikes. Great quality for reasonable cost.
I like the Paselas a lot. Compromise tires yes, but very well done compromises. There are tires that roll better, grip better, last longer, do better with flats, etc. But Paselas do all of those at least decently. (The one caution, the sidewalls wear or tear easily. Panaracer assumes that they will never see contact on a properly setup bike. Very slight brake shoe drag on the sidewall WILL cause a full blowout. Getting careless and rubbing the tire against a curb. Ditto.)

I've use all widths from 25c to 37c. All have been good experiences. I've used 28c by far the most. Good, decently fast commuters.

Edit: I haven't ridden 27" for decades (long before I eve knew about Paselas) but Paselas come 27" and I would expect everything I said above to apply.

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I have Kenda "skin walls" on my '84 Peugeot. I keep them inflated to 90 psi--that's what they're rated for. They're mounted on RIGIDA hookless alloy rims. I've never had ANY problems with them and when the tires need replacing, as long as they're still availabIe, I'll be replacing same-for-same.
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I have Kenda "skin walls" on my '84 Peugeot. I keep them inflated to 90 psi--that's what they're rated for. They're mounted on RIGIDA hookless alloy rims. I've never had ANY problems with them and when the tires need replacing, as long as they're still availabIe, I'll be replacing same-for-same.
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Jon, you never inflate a tire to it's max sidewall psi unless your a big dude, bicycle tires are not that much different then car tires, a car tire may have a sidewall psi of 45 but the car's recommended psi may be 36, so you have to go by what the car manufacture says which they base that on the cars weight. Not sure how much you way but there is a degree of science behind this PSI stuff having to do with 15% sidewall deflection, you find road tire PSI calculators on line, or some tires will give you a chart, or graph, that will show you what your idea PSI will be for your weight.
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Jon, you never inflate a tire to it's max sidewall psi unless your a big dude, bicycle tires are not that much different then car tires, a car tire may have a sidewall psi of 45 but the car's recommended psi may be 36, so you have to go by what the car manufacture says which they base that on the cars weight. Not sure how much you way but there is a degree of science behind this PSI stuff having to do with 15% sidewall deflection, you find road tire PSI calculators on line, or some tires will give you a chart, or graph, that will show you what your idea PSI will be for your weight.
Are you familiar with the Jimmy Dean song "Big John"? Well, that's me. "...He stood 6 foot 6 and weighed 245...". I stand 6 foot 6 and weigh 245 as well. So yah, max inflation. But thank you for your concern (sincerely, no sarcasm intended).
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