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Old 03-12-19, 10:58 AM
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Squeaking Look Keo pedals

I have 3 pairs of Look Keo pedals one pair on each bike.
On one bike the left pedal squeaks occasionally whether the cleat is new or used.
No squeaking on any of the other pedals.
This usually will happen after I have dismounted, temporarily, and stepped on the road.
The squeaking goes away after awhile, but might return.
I've tried cleaning the lubricating the contact surfaces, and this may help temporarily, but does not eliminate the squeaking.
The squeaking appears on the newest pedal set.
Any ideas are appreciated.
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Old 03-12-19, 02:33 PM
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I haven't used Look-style pedals in quite awhile, but I used to get squeaks. I have Shimano SPD on all my bikes now and even they squeak when humidity rises.
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Old 03-12-19, 02:35 PM
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Might be blaming the pedals for the saddle squeaking..

For all I can Guess.. remote and blindly..

Crank arms loose ?







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Old 03-13-19, 11:52 AM
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Thanks for responding.
I don't remember if the pedal squeaks when I'm off the saddle. I'll have to verify this.
Noise and squeak locating can be deceiving.
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Old 03-13-19, 08:57 PM
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When I ran Shimano/Look pedals, any squeaking was always my cleat/shoe sole. I’d squirt water on my cleat during the ride and squeaks went away for a while. YMMV. Now I’m on Speedplays and Shimano SPDs.
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Old 03-14-19, 08:51 AM
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I use Look Delta pedals, and have found that pedal squeak is usually down to worn cleats. The Look bimaterial cleats are, surprisingly, much worse for this than aftermarket cleats.

As the OP has mentioned he gets the squeak with both new and worn cleats though, it's likely to be something else making the squeak - is it a press fit BB on the squeaking bike?
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Old 03-14-19, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ExPatTyke View Post
I use Look Delta pedals, and have found that pedal squeak is usually down to worn cleats. The Look bimaterial cleats are, surprisingly, much worse for this than aftermarket cleats.

As the OP has mentioned he gets the squeak with both new and worn cleats though, it's likely to be something else making the squeak - is it a press fit BB on the squeaking bike?
I had had some problems with the BB30 brgs. It ended up being from the spider/chainring interface, but this was a creaking sound, and not a squeak.
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Old 03-14-19, 01:18 PM
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OK, as previously suggested, check your saddle, especially where t he rails connect with the mounting surface. A light lube spray (or a removal, cleaning and greasing of the connecting surfaces) might help.

If that is not the source of the squeak, taking the blade portion off the pedal, cleaning and greasing will help (if the pedal is the source of the squeak).

There are YouTube videos showing the R&R procedure.

Good luck.
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Old 03-14-19, 03:09 PM
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I have several pair of LOOK Delta format pedals. On some of the older ones the metal in the middle, where the rubber boot on the cleat rubs it, gets worn down. Just a very little bit. But that wear, combined with the worn rubber boot, causes the hard nylon/plastic of the cleat to rub which produces the squeak. I put a blob of ShoGoo type glue on the rubber boot to thicken back up and it corrects the problem.

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Old 03-15-19, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by _ForceD_ View Post
I have several pair of LOOK Delta format pedals. On some of the older ones the metal in the middle, where the rubber boot on the cleat rubs it, gets worn down. Just a very little bit. But that wear, combined with the worn rubber boot, causes the hard nylon/plastic of the cleat to rub which produces the squeak. I put a blob of ShoGoo type glue on the rubber boot to thicken back up and it corrects the problem.

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Unfortunately, the squeak happens even on new cleats on the specific pedal. I have polished the metal surface of the pedal because I saw a few scuff marks. I'll see what happens on my next ride.
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Old 03-15-19, 02:25 PM
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I used to have to routinely apologize to my riding buddies for my squeaky Look Deltas. Keos have been way better. I currently have about 15 sets of Keos, various models, ages, and wear. Some squeak a little, some none at all. The older, more worn sets I can count on to have a little squeak now and then. Almost always it is a little chewed up spot on the cleat or a little piece of debris on the cleat or the pedal. Since yours seems to be reproduced down to the pedal and not the cleat I think you're on the right track. Look for a rough spot under the front portion and lower back portion where the cleat engages. You can also try to adjust the release tension, see if that changes it.
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Old 03-17-19, 07:52 AM
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Apply a thin layer of Ags Sil-Glyde brake lubricant or apply a coating of GUNK Squeal Medic brake finishing treatment.

My experience is so far with using Ags Sil-Glyde for non-bearing related bicycle squeaks, but that was only because the person I helped picked that product over buying GUNK.

Squeal Medic might be optimal to use if considering its MSDS
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Old 03-17-19, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs View Post
I used to have to routinely apologize to my riding buddies for my squeaky Look Deltas. Keos have been way better. I currently have about 15 sets of Keos, various models, ages, and wear. Some squeak a little, some none at all. The older, more worn sets I can count on to have a little squeak now and then. Almost always it is a little chewed up spot on the cleat or a little piece of debris on the cleat or the pedal. Since yours seems to be reproduced down to the pedal and not the cleat I think you're on the right track. Look for a rough spot under the front portion and lower back portion where the cleat engages. You can also try to adjust the release tension, see if that changes it.
I have 2 sets of old Keo pedals w/o the blade. They don't squeak, but the new set with the blade does, but only on one side.
I have tried using various lubricants that work for awhile, but are not permanent.
What puzzles me is that the squeaking starts after I have dismounted, and the cleat has come in contact with the ground. It's as if the ground creates a "rough" spot on the cleat which then rubs on the pedal.
Even though, on occasion, I have dismounted completely, and moved around the right cleat/pedal never squeaks.
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Old 03-18-19, 09:54 AM
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I thought about this again yesterday on my ride. Could it be that they cleat is squeaking against the sole of the shoe because it's not sufficiently tightened? Check to make sure all the screws on the cleats are tight enough.

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Old 03-19-19, 11:29 AM
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Today, I used another pair of shoes on the pedals that squeak, and there was no squeaking.
I didn't mention in my previous posts that I use LeMond wedges on the left and right shoes.
The pair I used today has also wedges.
However, I notice that on the shoe that squeaks the wedges protrude on the rear side of the cleat more that the other ones.
Maybe, this protrusion is the source of the squeaking. I'll have to cut-off the protruding part of the wedges or move them forward relative to the cleat to see if it eliminates the problem.
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Old 03-19-19, 01:07 PM
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I thought about this again yesterday on my ride. Could it be that they cleat is squeaking against the sole of the shoe because it's not sufficiently tightened? Check to make sure all the screws on the cleats are tight enough.

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The screws are all tight. I always use loctite on cleat screws so the don't loosen.
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My solution to the squeaking is to take a knife and scrape the front of the cleat and the rear of the cleat where the black build up is. Works every time for me. Been riding Look pedals since 86, and they have always squeaked and the only way to eliminate it is the scrape the black dirt build up on the cleats. It does not build up on the pedals.
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Originally Posted by yannisg View Post
The screws are all tight. I always use loctite on cleat screws so the don't loosen.
My feeling is that the screws could be tight, but the cleat/sole plastics could still squeak. You could try letting a little liquidy lube like silicone seep around the cleat/sole area and the T nuts in the shoe.

I hate to put lube all over the cleat as it can make walking even more dangerous.
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Old 03-20-19, 11:15 AM
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My solution to the squeaking is to take a knife and scrape the front of the cleat and the rear of the cleat where the black build up is. Works every time for me. Been riding Look pedals since 86, and they have always squeaked and the only way to eliminate it is the scrape the black dirt build up on the cleats. It does not build up on the pedals.
I've looked at my cleats, and there is no black buildup in front or rear close to the area of the rubber pads. The plastic of the cleat in those areas is a bit rough.
The condition of the cleats is the same on both pairs, the one that squeaks, and the one that doesn't. The only difference is the protrusion of the plastic LeMond wedges.
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I use Big Meats wedges, same ones since 86 and they are not the cause of the noise on my shoes. Clean the bottom of the cleats and the corresponding place on the pedals and see what happens. I did this to pinpoint the origin of the noise on each foot. It was a process of elimination and finally came down to the black build up on the cleats. I forgot to point out there was build up on the bottom of the cleats as well that must be removed as well.
At one point I was lubing the pedals, but before the end of a 30 miler the noise would start. Lube doesn't help. I think anywhere the cleat interfaces with the pedal is a possible origin point.
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