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Old 04-03-19, 01:20 PM
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Rema high speed repair does not glue

Am I the only one who has this problem? The old Rema patch kit where you needed to wait 5 minutes to press the patch worked just fine. But the new one named "High Speed Repair" does not actually glue. I follow the instructions to the tee - buff the area around the hole with sandpaper, apply and spread the cement, detach the patch from the foil and press it tightly. Then I wait a few minutes, pump the tube a little bit and can see that the patch starts detaching from the tube. Tried a few times with different tubes - the same failure all the time. If I try to remove the patch I can see in some areas it is stuck to the tube, but in most it is not. What am I doing wrong? Where can I buy the old Rema cement? I don't mind waiting 5 minutes if it works so much better.
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Old 04-03-19, 01:34 PM
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I rarely pump a tube up outside of the tire, especially without waiting a good long time (> day?)

I've mixed glues and patches of different brands without issues, so you could try a local bike shop, or even Department Store to look for something that will work.

It looks like the Rema patch kits and glue are available from a thousand online sources.





Will this be the "New Coke" Debacle?



Will companies ever learn?

Part of the reason REMA has been so popular for so long is that they've been selling a good solid product for decades.

It has even outlasted those new glueless quick patches.
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Old 04-03-19, 01:37 PM
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mis applied faith

Slow Patching is better than Quick patches.. They're just to get you home ,

if you did not choose to bring a spare tube..





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My on-the-road routine is apply a regular REMA patch as per instructions, inflate the tube by mouth, put back in tire and inflate to full pressure. That routine has been working for 40 years. (Well I learned the mouth trick relatively recently, used to use a couple of pump strokes but the oral approach is much faster and I never over-inflate.)

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Old 04-03-19, 06:44 PM
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Then I wait a few minutes, pump the tube a little bit and can see that the patch starts detaching from the tube..
Hmmm, if the instructions say to wait a few minutes after applying the patch then I can't see any advantage over the old style kit where you wait a few minutes for the fluid to dry before applying the patch. What am I missing here?
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Old 04-03-19, 07:11 PM
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It looks if I wait a minute between spreading the glue and applying the patch it works much better. I guess their instructions for quick application are wrong. To compare, instructions for Park Path Kit VP-1 clearly say - spread the glue and wait until it is dry. And VP-1 works good.
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Old 04-04-19, 09:01 AM
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Here's Rema's official video on how to apply the patch from your same kit. (Actual patching instructions start at 40 sec.) This sounds the same as the instructions from the pre-"high-speed" label. I'm guessing this is just new labeling to get customers who might switch to glueless patches to stick with Rema.

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Old 04-04-19, 12:40 PM
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as the video above point out it best to put the tube back into the tire before adding air . as with any glueless patch , with the tire holding the patch in place . if you add tire to the tube outside of the tire and the tube doesn't keep it shape the patch will fail .
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The old Rema instructions explicitly stated to wait 5 minutes between spreading the glue and applying the patch. And it worked really well - the patch was bonded to the tube. You could pump air in the tube outside of tire and the patch would hold. With new Rema I had a flat because the patch failed even inside the tire - similar to what I had with glueless patches.
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As with glueless patches , and these you must place the tube back into the tire before you add air or they will not hold .
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