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Old 05-22-19, 02:46 PM
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10 Speed 36 Tooth Derailleur Options?

Are there any rear derailleur out there that will work with a 10 speed Shimano 11-36 set up that is non clutch? I'm stumped on trying to find one..
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Old 05-22-19, 04:50 PM
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I believe the Shimano Deore Trekking RD-T6000 is designed for a 10 speed 11-36 cassette. I'm not sure if it has a clutch or not, but it is durable, performs well, and is very affordable. If you don't want a clutch, you may be limited to lower-price or older components...is there any reason that you're avoiding a clutch?
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Old 05-22-19, 07:25 PM
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10 sp mountain or road?
You do not have to turn the clutch on.
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I'd bet most if not all MTB 10 speed RD are rated for 36T. The newer ones even higher. 11-36 is the most typical 10 speed cassetter.

Shimano RD have a switch to disable clutch for wheel changes. I don't know why anyone would not ride with the clutch on, but you can leave it off.
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Old 05-22-19, 11:26 PM
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I'm running a road drivetrain since this is on my road bike. Trying to go non clutch to keep this cheap as possible and not have to upgrade more parts than needed.
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Old 05-23-19, 03:16 AM
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If you are using Shimano 10 speed road shifters, a Shimano 9 speed MTB derailleur will work fine and I don't think any of them have clutches. 10 speed road and 9 speed MTB have the same cable pull, so they work fine together. The rear derailleur doesn't care how many cogs you have, the shifter determines how many gears it will shift.

I have this one on one of my gravel bikes with Shimano 10 speed road shifters. https://www.amazon.com/SHIMANO-Deore.../dp/B00WJGWJUC

You'll need an inline cable adjuster, because the MTB derailleur doesn't have one.

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Old 05-23-19, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dsaul View Post
If you are using Shimano 10 speed road shifters, a Shimano 9 speed MTB derailleur will work fine and I don't think any of them have clutches. 10 speed road and 9 speed MTB have the same cable pull, so they work fine together. The rear derailleur doesn't care how many cogs you have, the shifter determines how many gears it will shift.

I have this one on one of my gravel bikes with Shimano 10 speed road shifters. https://www.amazon.com/SHIMANO-Deore.../dp/B00WJGWJUC

You'll need an inline cable adjuster, because the MTB derailleur doesn't have one.
If 10 speed road shifters work with 9 speed MTB derailleurs (same cable pull), that means 10 speed road shifters won't work with 10-11 speed MTB derailleurs, which have different cable pull than 8-9 speed MTB derailleurs.

However, if 10 speed road shifter + 36T capable 9 speed MTB derailleur is what's needed, and cheapness is a factor, there are quite a few options:

Altus M2000
Acera M3000
Alivio M4000
Deore M592
XT M772

Altus through Alivio also have barrel adjuster.
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If 10 speed road shifters work with 9 speed MTB derailleurs (same cable pull), that means 10 speed road shifters won't work with 10-11 speed MTB derailleurs, which have different cable pull than 8-9 speed MTB derailleurs.
That is correct. Shimano !0 and 11 speed road and MTB shifters and derailleurs are not cross compatible. None of them will work with any other outside of its intended use(road/MTB) and speed(10/11). Tiagra 4700 10 speed is an oddball that shifts 10 speeds using 11 speed road cable pull.
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I don't think Tiagra RD has a clutch.
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Doing some research, it seems that a Wolftooth Roadlink might be a an avenue to pursue..
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It turns out that the 11-36 tooth cassette works with the stock derailleur so I'm going with that setup..
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Old 05-27-19, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 09box View Post
It turns out that the 11-36 tooth cassette works with the stock derailleur so I'm going with that setup..
was it able to work just by maxxing out the B screw?

and you didnt mention, but be sure to properly do the new chain measurement to make sure no "oh crap" moments happen, which will end up costing a lot more...
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LBS did the install so I'm sure they looked over everything okay including B-screw.
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If road: On my Toughroad GX 1 which came with Tiagra Shifters and derailleur I had no issues running an 11-36 cassette with a 48-32 chainring setup
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Originally Posted by 09box View Post
LBS did the install so I'm sure they looked over everything okay including B-screw.
Right.
If you do work on your own, the Park tools video series is rather extensive, well made and very informative. A great resource, even if you use a LBS but would like to have a better understanding of a given topic.
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