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Old 06-03-19, 02:55 PM
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A loose rear quick release was the cause of the only out of the saddle creak I've ever had.
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Old 06-04-19, 09:23 AM
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Update: Did some work on Mrs. NoWhammies bike last night.
  • Tightened the head tube to spec (5 nN)
  • Took a look at the skewers, both front and back, cleaned, reinstalled, and tightened the wheel back on
  • Clean and lubed the drive train
And...

Took a look at the seat/seat post. Here is where I realized the seat post clamp is shot. The clamp doesn't tighten anymore. How Mrs. NoWhammies was able to ride the bike without the seat post shooting straight to the bottom of the seat tube I have no idea. Anyway, I'll pick up a clamp after work tonight and see if that fixes things.

So I wasn't able to ride the bike and see if I managed to get rid of the creaking.

Also...

When I put the rear wheel back on the bike and was running through the gears (after cleaning) the chain was NOT staying in the largest cog on the back. Once again the chain would run on the largest ring for a bit then jump down to the second largest ring for a bit, before jumping back up and repeating the process. Another mystery to solve...
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Old 06-04-19, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NoWhammies View Post
Once again the chain would run on the largest ring for a bit then jump down to the second largest ring for a bit, before jumping back up and repeating the process. Another mystery to solve...
The barrel adjuster on the RD should take care of that no problem, assuming the limit screws are adjusted properly.
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Old 06-04-19, 06:21 PM
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When you put the rear wheel back on it may not have seated in the same position as before so that the derailer is behaving normally but the cassette is off track.
If that's not it.
Make sure you are not in the big chain ring up front. You may be cross chaining and the angle is pulling the chain down off the cassette.
If not..

I dunno. But those are some usual issues.
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Old 06-04-19, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Happy Feet View Post
When you put the rear wheel back on it may not have seated in the same position as before so that the derailer is behaving normally but the cassette is off track.
If that's not it.
Make sure you are not in the big chain ring up front. You may be cross chaining and the angle is pulling the chain down off the cassette.
If not..

I dunno. But those are some usual issues.
I've had some squeaking on my Nishiki Olympic 12 but what's weird is that it only squeaks when I shift the front derailleur to the small chain ring... Thoughts anyone?
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Old 06-04-19, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon T View Post
Believe it or not, it could be the QR's on the wheels. I have a friend who rides a Cervello and he had a creaky bb. Had it replaced. Still creaky. I told him to remove the QR's, thoroughly saturate them with oil, wipe off the excess and reinstall. The noise went away. I'm just sayin'........
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This - Its a good place to start. I have had this exact problem. Creaking when I stand. I kept trying to figure out where the noise was coming from. Tightened up the QRs based on suggestions on BF and it went away.

-Sean
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Old 06-05-19, 08:47 AM
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Thanks everyone. As soon as I get the seat clamp issue fixed (damn Argon 18 proprietary seat clamp) I'll be able to take the bike out for a spin and see if I fixed the issue.

@Wilmingtech I am hoping it is the cranks. I didn't end up saturating them with oil, but I did put some triflow on the skewers in hopes that would solve the problem.

@Happy Feet thanks for the tip on the rear wheel placement. I have re-seated the wheel. Hopefully that solves the problem. I'll figure out more once I get the bike out for a spin.

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Old 06-05-19, 10:12 PM
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Well Mrs. NoWhammies took the bike for a ride tonight and she figures the noise is coming from the headset.

Anyone know how many nN the headset needs to be tightened to? I thought it was 5 nN.

Thanks.
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Old 06-06-19, 04:17 AM
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5Nm on my stem. It's sometimes printed somewhere on the stem.

Does the bike have mechanical or hydro brakes? If it's mechanical and the cable housings are getting old, try to squirt some oil where they contact the brake levers and calipers. The plastic housing pulls back as they stretch and dirt gets in there. They then crackle and squeak when you move the handlebars.
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Old 06-06-19, 08:04 AM
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Yeah, I figured 5Nm was the correct setting for the headset. Although now that I look at photos on the interwebs, I might have labelled it incorrectly on the forums here.

I am NOT talking about this..



But this component on the bike.





The bike has mechanical rim brakes. I doubt very much the cable housing has ever been looked at. Good suggestion to check it out.
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Old 06-06-19, 08:31 AM
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Ohhhh. This is the "preload" for the stem/headset. What you do is loosen the 2 stem bolts (first pic) then tighten that top bolt just enough so the headset bearings don't have any play in them (hold the front brake and rock the bike back and forth, you should not feel any "clunk" or anything rocking). You want the bolt to be tight enough for no rocking, but not tight enough to feel resistance when steering. Then you tighten the 2 stem bolts to clamp everything together.
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Old 06-06-19, 02:56 PM
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Thank you @ChinookTx. I'll give that whorl.

My apologies. I'm still learning bike terminology and learning how to fix things. Or in some cases, break them before fixing
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Old 06-07-19, 04:08 AM
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Hey, don't apologize! Life would get pretty boring if we didn't learn new things here and there!

I hope you find the squeak, the click or the tick! These things drive me crazy!
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Old 06-09-19, 09:17 PM
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Just to update the thread. The noise on Mrs. NoWhammies bike is gone.

Not sure what's changed. I never did get around to adjusting the stem/headset. As Mrs. NoWhammies transports her bike semi-regularly, this involves taking the front wheel and saddle on/off the bike regularly. My guess is the noise was coming from either of these.

With the seat clamp recently replaced, my guess is the noise was caused by the old seat clamp giving up the ghost.
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Old 06-14-19, 09:44 AM
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Well after doing hill repeats last night, Mrs. NoWhammies has told me the noise is back. So it's back to the drawing board.

For the suggestion to oil the skewers, what oil are you using?
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Well after doing hill repeats last night, Mrs. NoWhammies has told me the noise is back. So it's back to the drawing board.

For the suggestion to oil the skewers, what oil are you using?
Virtually anything will work. It's possibly the only application where I would recommend WD-40.
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@Jeff Wills and do you just spray/oil the whole thing? Spring included? Or just the metal skewer part?
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@Jeff Wills and do you just spray/oil the whole thing? Spring included? Or just the metal skewer part?
Go after the whole shebang: remove the skewer and spray the inside of the QR mechanism. Wipe off the excess, then grease the threads of the shaft and the inside of the axle. Reassemble, putting the proper preload on the QR. I like to thread on the adjuster until it is in contact with the dropouts while the QR handle is at right angles to the bike. Closing the QR should leave an indent in the palm of your hand. Clean off any excess grease.
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Originally Posted by NoWhammies View Post
Just to update the thread. The noise on Mrs. NoWhammies bike is gone.

Not sure what's changed. I never did get around to adjusting the stem/headset. As Mrs. NoWhammies transports her bike semi-regularly, this involves taking the front wheel and saddle on/off the bike regularly. My guess is the noise was coming from either of these.

With the seat clamp recently replaced, my guess is the noise was caused by the old seat clamp giving up the ghost.
When the saddle is removed for transport, I assume you are removing the post and saddle. Have you tried putting a thin coating of grease on the saddle's post?
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@Jeff Wills thanks. Looks like it's time to pick up some WD-40

@freeranger there was grease on the saddle post, but it is possible that after successive removals and reinsertions the grease has worn off. Might be time to lube up the saddle post again. Good tip. Thank you.
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Just want to add one thing. Make sure the skewers are tight enough. If everything else has failed and you have cleaned and regreased...tighten the skewer more and see if that does the trick. On one of my bikes I have to have it tighter than normal otherwise it will “tick” when I get on it while riding.
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