Threadless headset removal.
I've been wrenching threaded headsets mostly and threadless headsets don't look too awfully difficult but I haven't seen any videos to explain this.
I pulled the bars and unclamped the stem but the bearing cups won't unscrew cause the tube is larger at the top. It obviously won't push down so how do I get to the bearings to service them. You may think I'm nuts but here are the pictures. What in the wide world of sports do I do now? https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f0d0eef59f.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...98e07144e2.jpg |
That's a threaded headset with a threadless adaptor in it rather than a normal quill stem
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Originally Posted by dedhed
(Post 21328250)
That's a threaded headset with a threadless adaptor in it rather than a normal quill stem
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Originally Posted by dedhed
(Post 21328250)
That's a threaded headset with a threadless adaptor in it rather than a normal quill stem
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Originally Posted by DOS
(Post 21328252)
I was wondering what the hell that was. If it works like a quill,does op just need to give it a wack to pop the wedge loose?
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Without being able to see below the star nut, I'd suspect an allan wrench in the middle of the star nut, or remove the star nut to get at the allan holding the wedge.
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Was there a brand name on the cap?
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Likely the wedge bolt is inside the steerer extension. The necking down section makes a nice seat for a pressure washer that the bolt head sits on. Like Zoom stems from the early 1990s and a currently made steerer extension (forgot the brand). Likely also takes a 4 or 5mm hex wrench. Can you look inside the steerer past both the star not at the top and the crown at the bottom and tell us what you see? Andy
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Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
(Post 21328267)
Likely the wedge bolt is inside the steerer extension. The necking down section makes a nice seat for a pressure washer that the bolt head sits on. Like Zoom stems from the early 1990s and a currently made steerer extension (forgot the brand). Likely also takes a 4 or 5mm hex wrench. Can you look inside the steerer past both the star not at the top and the crown at the bottom and tell us what you see? Andy
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Originally Posted by Cycle Tourist
(Post 21328256)
What wedge? There's no bolt to jam the wedge.
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Can't see anything past the star. Maybe the wedge was tightened then the star out in. I guess drilling out the star is my best option.
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Some steerer extensions have a wedge draw bolt that has a threaded hole running through it. (Typically a M6 bolt using a 6mm hex fitting and a M5 hole for the Cap draw bolt). I suppose that this feature might have been either damaged or not discovered so the installer installed a star nut instead. Andy
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Originally Posted by Cycle Tourist
(Post 21328292)
Can't see anything past the star. Maybe the wedge was tightened then the star out in. I guess drilling out the star is my best option.
One can usually just pry the star nut out with screwdrivers and needle nose pliers. Andy |
Originally Posted by DOS
(Post 21328288)
I was assuming the missing top cap bolt also engaged the wedge. Where is that bolt and how long is it? In any event, hit the thing with a mallet and see if it comes loose.
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Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
(Post 21328305)
One can usually just pry the star nut out with screwdrivers and needle nose pliers. Andy
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I can’t imagine what the starnut is for with that setup- the bearings are loaded independent of the adaptor. Thankfully the starnut isn’t set very deep, so should be fairly easy to remove.
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Originally Posted by frankenmike
(Post 21328701)
I can’t imagine what the starnut is for with that setup- the bearings are loaded independent of the adaptor. Thankfully the starnut isn’t set very deep, so should be fairly easy to remove.
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Before drilling or prying, check with Robbie Tunes on the C&V forum. He's used various conversions for putting threadless on quill stem bikes. Ditto RJ the Bike Guy on YouTube.
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Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
(Post 21328303)
Some steerer extensions have a wedge draw bolt that has a threaded hole running through it. (Typically a M6 bolt using a 6mm hex fitting and a M5 hole for the Cap draw bolt). I suppose that this feature might have been either damaged or not discovered so the installer installed a star nut instead. Andy
The bearings were totally shot with is probably why I got the Allez so cheap. Anyway, with a new headset and star this episode is closed and I'm smarter than I was yesterday. You guy are the best.:beer: |
Originally Posted by Cycle Tourist
(Post 21328923)
Thanks Andy and company. I had to drill out the center of the star, pried out the butterflies and expose the bolt head. The wedge was easily loosened and everything came out.
The bearings were totally shot with is probably why I got the Allez so cheap. Anyway, with a new headset and star this episode is closed and I'm smarter than I was yesterday. You guy are the best.:beer: |
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