Kona - missing V-brake cable stop?
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Kona - missing V-brake cable stop?
I don't work on mtn bikes much, but have adjusted V-brakes a few times. Someone gave me an old Kona Cinder Cone frame that I'm building up. I see a brake cable stop near the headset, but not at the rear brake. I'm baffled. Did they use a clamp-on cable stop? No cable stop? And if no stop, do I run a bare wire directly to the rear V-brake noodle? Doesn't seem right.





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You can see where the paint is brighter under the seat post clamp. Likely had a hanger mounted there and originally ran canti lever brakes.
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You can zip tie a full length brake cable housing right to the rear brake.
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V-brakes do not use cable stops, you run the housing all the way to the noodle.
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Many bikes (with V brakes) do have a rear of TT casing stop because they have a front of TT one. First thing, besides the very obvious full length casing, is a backstop or other clamp on stop. From the TT weld beads it looks to be a round tube. So a clamp on stop like this might do. This is an Origin 8 part #14469 . They are made in different tube diameters. Andy

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If you don't have the hanger tho, you could certainly run full length housing, as prev. mentioned. Could use zip ties or clamps similar to these: https://www.modernbike.com/product-2126195207
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This thread shows a pretty clean set up with a post clamp mount.
Cantilever to V Brakes Swap?
https://www.greggscycles.com/product...hoCDoAQAvD_BwE
https://www.google.com/search?q=seat...CAKVPC_enUS837
Cantilever to V Brakes Swap?
https://www.greggscycles.com/product...hoCDoAQAvD_BwE
https://www.google.com/search?q=seat...CAKVPC_enUS837
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kona called it a dog collar. It's less of a cable stop and more of a guide for a bare cable, meant for canti brakes only. Can be modified to use is as a housing stop though. I have a bunch if anybody needs one.
They all got removed/replaced with the style of clamp on stop posted above when the owners converted to V-brakes. I also have some of the nicer old machined V-brake stops, probably all huge sizes for aluminum bikes though.
They all got removed/replaced with the style of clamp on stop posted above when the owners converted to V-brakes. I also have some of the nicer old machined V-brake stops, probably all huge sizes for aluminum bikes though.
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I'd just run full length outer, keeps the inner clean and will save you some money.
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Thx everyone!
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I should have been clearer, V-brakes have a run of housing going to the noodle, unlike cantilever brakes which have a cable hanger where the housing stops and then a bare inner wire goes to the brake's straddle cable carrier or link wire. Either may have intermediate stops for bare cable runs such as along the top tube.
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I should have been clearer, V-brakes have a run of housing going to the noodle, unlike cantilever brakes which have a cable hanger where the housing stops and then a bare inner wire goes to the brake's straddle cable carrier or link wire. Either may have intermediate stops for bare cable runs such as along the top tube.
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These are two different generations of the same thing, so they look a little different.
Here is one modified to work with V-brakes:

Here is the stock setup:
Here is one modified to work with V-brakes:

Here is the stock setup:

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OK, found the part, and found an original pic of the bike. This cable guide/stop has an indent that fixes the position. I first tried to defeat this because I did not like the curve in the cable, and this orientation just seems wrong, but this is what Kona designed. And it works.
Here are pix of the finished bike.

Here are pix of the finished bike.


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Maiden voyage last night. Today I changed the saddle. Next up is a better crank and bar-ends. Most of these parts came from a wreaked hybrid I bought for parts.
It fits and rides beautifully. I've wanted a rigid fork mtn bike ever since I gave my brother my old purple Rockhopper.
Thx 2cam!
It fits and rides beautifully. I've wanted a rigid fork mtn bike ever since I gave my brother my old purple Rockhopper.
Thx 2cam!

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Given that the first photo shows a cable casing end that isn't seated in the frame clamp stop fully I don't think this is a solution that Kona , or experienced wrenches, would have hoped for. Then there's the extremely curvy casing path... Andy
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Yeah, I don't like the curve, so I don't know what Kona was thinking. The brake pull doesn't feel like there is any restriction however. The cable guide has a top tube indent that forces the guide into this position. I tried getting around it but, in my opinion, this is just bad/strange design. I could be wrong.
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