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What do you think of these S2 Schwinn wheels? Worth rebuilding with new hub? #spokes?

Old 05-22-20, 10:10 AM
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What do you think of these S2 Schwinn wheels? Worth rebuilding with new hub? #spokes?

https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/bop/...117160774.html

Been looking for some stronger wheels, but not sure how much a 7 speed wheel hub with right spoke count would cost or if it's worth the effort and expense to rebuild these. What do you guys think?
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If you want a stronger wheel, get a Sun Rims CR-18 or Rhyno Lite.
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The ad states "chromed" which implies steel. If you want to stop with rim brakes, especially in wet weather, steer clear of chromed rims.
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It doesn't rain here.
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Originally Posted by Oneder View Post
It doesn't rain here.
It doesn't matter. With rim brakes, chrome steel rims stop very poorly even in dry conditions and almost not at all in wet. Those rims are meant for use with coaster brake hubs and have no place on a decent road bike. Get something better.
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The s7 wheels aren't chrome and that is the size and material I want. It looks like the S2s are too wide anyway I think they are 2.125 while the S7 are 1.75. Just not sure what kind of hub to get to go with my 7 speed mb setup and how many spokes they have.

I think this hub will be OK but I never changed a hub before.

https://www.modernbike.com/shimano-d...rear-hub-black
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Better check the spoke holes on the wheels you want to buy versus the hub you are looking at.
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Originally Posted by Iride01 View Post
Better check the spoke holes on the wheels you want to buy versus the hub you are looking at.
That's what I am asking for help with, can't find any docs here. I can't find any contact info for this guy so can't ask him either or get these actual wheels, but have been looking out for something like this. Actually it's the tire that is 1.75 so don't know what the rim width is. I went out and measured and 1.5 is the rim width I want. The others are 1.0 and I don't like those as much and bigger than that is probably too big. The only ones I see like that online are pretty expensive or won't work with my current setup.
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Obsolete stuff worthy only of using in a restoration of a bike that used them originally.
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I don't build wheels, at most I will tighten a spoke. Some of the others that responded do, I think... build their own wheels.

You really haven't given much information about what you are wanting and why. So it's hard to say whether the S2's are a good thing or not.

For the money the guy wants for an old wheel and the cost of the hub, you can probably get a new already built wheel and just put it on. It may not be the ultimate in wheel quality, but it'd have a warranty.
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Originally Posted by Iride01 View Post
I don't build wheels, at most I will tighten a spoke. Some of the others that responded do, I think... build their own wheels.

You really haven't given much information about what you are wanting and why. So it's hard to say whether the S2's are a good thing or not.

For the money the guy wants for an old wheel and the cost of the hub, you can probably get a new already built wheel and just put it on. It may not be the ultimate in wheel quality, but it'd have a warranty.
What I want is 7 speed 26" x 1.5 inch wheels with steel rims. You can't seem to buy them new anywhere and even the new allow rims in 26"x1.5 are mostly very expensive. Like usual everyone on the site wants to tell me why not to do something but I have one already on the rear wheel of one bike and it's fantastic. The brakes work much better than the other ones do because of the wider rim in spite of what some have said. I can't find out what rim it is because it's ancient but it works perfectly for me especially since it is rock solid and I don't have to return the wheel every 5 minutes being a heavier rider.

They used chrome streel brakes on raleighs for decades and that's in england where it is constantly damp. There is no issue here with that, so if I could get a 1.5 inch steel wheel for 50 bucks (chrome or not) that is an AMAZING deal for me and just what I want, and if I had to put a new hub on it then that's annoying but those are the breaks and it would still be worth it. I hate ebay and have had nothing but problems doing that so I would not do that for something unless I have to, not just to get a wheel/rims especially when if it is slightly wrong then it will be a complete waste of time and money.
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Great wheels, they are going to work fantastic for you. Better?
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Don't nix aluminum rims too quick. Just like steel rims, there are good ones for the type of riding you do and not so good rims, IMO. Sure chrome looks good on old bikes, but no one else will really care except for some vintage types that'll goad you for using that Deore hub.

The thing that'll get you if you think you are going to simply swap hubs, is that you can't just undo the spokes and put them on the new hub. The spoke hole drillings on the hubs might be at different diameters and then you'll definitely have to become a wheel builder. You have to know how to figure out the length of the spokes you need to get and they aren't all the same length for the same wheel. As well as true and dish the rear wheel properly. I've looked several times as it's interesting to me, but when I add up all the cost of spokes and even using low cost rims and hubs, I can always find a wheel already built for the same or less. And since you missed the fact the hub was 32 and the wheels were 36 spokes.........
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OP: "What do you guys think?"
Everyone with honest, accurate, and well thought out responses: "No."
OP: "I'm going to whine about not getting the answer I wanted."

Seriously, you can get beefy aluminum rims that will be easier to build/true and will also have adequate braking performance dry or wet. There's about a dozen reasons no one uses steel rims anymore, except on the absolute cheapest bikes.
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Originally Posted by Oneder View Post
They used chrome streel brakes on raleighs for decades and that's in england where it is constantly damp. There is no issue here with that, so if I could get a 1.5 inch steel wheel for 50 bucks (chrome or not) that is an AMAZING deal for me and just what I want, and if I had to put a new hub on it then that's annoying but those are the breaks and it would still be worth it. I hate ebay and have had nothing but problems doing that so I would not do that for something unless I have to, not just to get a wheel/rims especially when if it is slightly wrong then it will be a complete waste of time and money.
I have one of those old Raleighs and it stops for ****.

The other question needs to be which of the 5 different 26" do you have?
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/26.html

https://www.amazon.com/WheelMaster-B.../dp/B000AO9KUC
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I have one of those old Raleighs and it stops for ****.

The other question needs to be which of the 5 different 26" do you have?
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/26.html

https://www.amazon.com/WheelMaster-B.../dp/B000AO9KUC
The one I have works great on my kind of bike.

I've seen that one before but it's alloy and freewheel. The whole point is to get something very strong but not spend a lot. I only considered a new hub because this deal was steel and cheap and I could pick them up today (or could have). Maybe I will just get rims instead.
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Originally Posted by dsbrantjr View Post
The ad states "chromed" which implies steel. If you want to stop with rim brakes, especially in wet weather, steer clear of chromed rims.
I think all of the rear wheels offered are 26" coaster brake wheels. At least one is a Bendix red stripe 2 speed.
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun View Post
You just want someone to agree with you.
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No I wanted someone to answer one of the many questions I asked, none of which were ever answered, not just spew nonsensical crap like happens EVERY SINGLE TIME on these forums.
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Go to a shop and ask them to check vendors' inventories for the wheel you want, or look up those vendors online and see if you can find it. I used to work for the distributor Hawley and they sold freewheel hub steel rimmed wheels, some with heavy duty spokes (105 ga.). I bought a matching set for a bike that my buddy was building up for a very heavy friend of his.

In defense of my fellow respondents, you probably should have been more explicit about what you are looking for. For example, what is "the right spoke count?" Just saying.

Below is a rear wheel like the one I got for my buddy.
https://www.hlc.bike/us/Catalog/Prod...vid=5637215131

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In defense of my fellow respondents, you probably should have been more explicit about what you are looking for. For example, what is "the right spoke count?" Just saying.
More like what ERTO BSD 26" is it? 590? 597? 559? Way more important for finding a rim than spoke count.
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Originally Posted by dedhed View Post
More like what ERTO BSD 26" is it? 590? 597? 559? Way more important for finding a rim than spoke count.
"What I want is 7 speed 26" x 1.5 inch wheels with steel rims."
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