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Old 08-08-20, 10:19 AM
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Need wet lube chain wiping excess advice

After putting on wet lube on chain, I backpedal and wipe off excess lube with cloth.

I wipe excess meticulously that after I'm done, the chain is shiny but seemingly dry at all sides. If I touch the chain, the outside surfaces feel almost dry - even affter I backpedal several times.

And here's the thing. After riding more than 10 miles, the outside surfaces are just tad bit oily again but otherwise clean. I suppose, that thin film of oil came from inside the roller. Should I wipe this off too?

May seem like a silly question but I'm curious if wiping off oil that migrated from inside the chain after each ride could dry the oil from the chain rollers eventually? Or not? Would the rollers always retain a film of oil inside the chain, unless washed off by rain or something? Thanks
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Old 08-08-20, 10:55 AM
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Wipe it off again and don't worry about it.
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ditto.
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I spray Clean Streak on a paper towel the use it to wipe off chain lube after applying the lube. I do this 2 or 3 times and pedal a bit between to give the lube inside the links a chance to be squeezed out. Andy
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Thanks everyone, I was a bit worried over-doing it. I will wipe it off again.
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I spray Clean Streak on a paper towel the use it to wipe off chain lube after applying the lube. I do this 2 or 3 times and pedal a bit between to give the lube inside the links a chance to be squeezed out. Andy
Thanks, never thought about using degreaser to wipe off excess.

I got the chain almost dry, including the rollers with few minutes of fast back pedaling and running it past a clean rug. Apparently, after 30 mins riding 10 miles, there's still some oil that goes out the chain. I suppose I can still use a little bit of degreaser to wipe it off. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by cubewheels View Post
Thanks, never thought about using degreaser to wipe off excess.

I got the chain almost dry, including the rollers with few minutes of fast back pedaling and running it past a clean rug. Apparently, after 30 mins riding 10 miles, there's still some oil that goes out the chain. I suppose I can still use a little bit of degreaser to wipe it off. Thanks!
Ya, that Clean Streak is good stuff. Brake Cleaner would work too, even WD40.... whatever you have on hand. I think in your area a wet lube would be good, but leave some on the chain, doesn't hurt anything. To clean my chain I just wipe it down with Clean Streak and relube it with wet lube or gear oil.. even in dry So California. And then wipe it off if it's looking gritty.
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Ya, that Clean Streak is good stuff. Brake Cleaner would work too, even WD40.... whatever you have on hand. I think in your area a wet lube would be good, but leave some on the chain, doesn't hurt anything. To clean my chain I just wipe it down with Clean Streak and relube it with wet lube or gear oil.. even in dry So California. And then wipe it off if it's looking gritty.
Yup, lots of dust and unpredictable weather. Often, ride starts out dry and dusty and then wet and muddy on the return home. I keep full fenders and mudflaps all the time, seem to help keep the chains clean.

Yea, I've used gear oil before, it's good (very good if you don't mind lubing more often). I'm experimenting with others but thinking of going back to gear oil again. I keep getting caught in the rain and re-lubing after each ride and if I have to lube very often, might as well use gear oil.
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Originally Posted by cubewheels View Post
After putting on wet lube on chain, I backpedal and wipe off excess lube with cloth.

I wipe excess meticulously that after I'm done, the chain is shiny but seemingly dry at all sides. If I touch the chain, the outside surfaces feel almost dry - even affter I backpedal several times.

And here's the thing. After riding more than 10 miles, the outside surfaces are just tad bit oily again but otherwise clean. I suppose, that thin film of oil came from inside the roller. Should I wipe this off too?

May seem like a silly question but I'm curious if wiping off oil that migrated from inside the chain after each ride could dry the oil from the chain rollers eventually? Or not? Would the rollers always retain a film of oil inside the chain, unless washed off by rain or something? Thanks
You can be as meticulous as you like but you will always have oil on the outside of the chain. Oil is a liquid and flows. Leave it sit or actively move it around through pedaling and it will move to the outside of the chain. There is nothing, short of not having any oil on the chain, that will stop it. Itís gravity. And, by wiping all the time, you are working towards the point where you wonít have any oil on the chain.

If you donít want to wipe oil off all the time, donít use oil! At the risk of a lube war, use a lubricant that doesnít flow. I use White Lightning and have for decades. It doesnít flow, doesnít need constant wiping, and gives me the same mileage between applications as oil lubricants as well as the same component mileage. Many people will say that wax based lubricants ďwash off in rainĒ but that is a misconception. Wax (and oil) isnít water soluble. Yes, wax lubricants need refreshing after rain because the water corrodes the spaces that wax canít flow back into.

But what many people donít seem to understand Is that oil needs refreshing after rain as well. Itís even more important because the oil mixes with water as you pedal and the water and oil phase separate after sitting for a while. The oil doesnít have an affinity for the metal while the water does. The water sits on top of the metal and corrodes it. The squeak you hear with wax is still there but Itís just silenced by the oil. As an added bonus, the wax doesnít attract dirt like oil does.
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You can be as meticulous as you like but you will always have oil on the outside of the chain. Oil is a liquid and flows. Leave it sit or actively move it around through pedaling and it will move to the outside of the chain. There is nothing, short of not having any oil on the chain, that will stop it. Itís gravity. And, by wiping all the time, you are working towards the point where you wonít have any oil on the chain.

If you donít want to wipe oil off all the time, donít use oil! At the risk of a lube war, use a lubricant that doesnít flow. I use White Lightning and have for decades. It doesnít flow, doesnít need constant wiping, and gives me the same mileage between applications as oil lubricants as well as the same component mileage. Many people will say that wax based lubricants ďwash off in rainĒ but that is a misconception. Wax (and oil) isnít water soluble. Yes, wax lubricants need refreshing after rain because the water corrodes the spaces that wax canít flow back into.

But what many people donít seem to understand Is that oil needs refreshing after rain as well. Itís even more important because the oil mixes with water as you pedal and the water and oil phase separate after sitting for a while. The oil doesnít have an affinity for the metal while the water does. The water sits on top of the metal and corrodes it. The squeak you hear with wax is still there but Itís just silenced by the oil. As an added bonus, the wax doesnít attract dirt like oil does.
Cool! I guess I'll just back pedal fast for few minutes, to fling extra oil after application and then backpedal again while wiping and finally just leave it as is.

Yup, I've read good reviews about paraffin wax being resilient from rain. I've also read about putting the wax in a pot, heating it until it's liquid and immersing the chain in it. Maybe that will allow the wax to penetrate all spaces in the chain.

Anyway, I don't think I'll use wax. Looks tedious and we get lots of rain this time of the year (I ride in all weather). I know that wax will hold but I'll always clean and re-lube the drive train whenever I get caught in strong rain.

Agreed. Despite using wet lube, I always re-lube if caught in strong rain.
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